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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Old 03.04.2018, 11:57
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

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One very simple question- how many of you would be keen to go back to UK to work and live right now.

Moi? Non merci.
If you had wanted to go back you would have gone back years ago.

In other words, nothing has changed?
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Old 03.04.2018, 12:34
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LOL only been back (here) 9 years ...

we certainly did intend to go back to UK when no longer able to jump on a train, plane or car whenever we feel like it. But for us, things have changed- the country I left 9 years ago and where I lived 39 years, has changed in the last 2 years...for sure.

Only my grandchildren would make me go back now.
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Old 03.04.2018, 13:01
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

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But for us, things have changed- the country I left 9 years ago and where I lived 39 years, has changed in the last 2 years...for sure.
Bloody immigrants
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Old 03.04.2018, 15:12
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nothing has changed?
Apparently the food has improved.

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Old 05.04.2018, 17:39
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Shipping groups boost Ireland-EU routes ahead of Brexit
Freight hauliers plan to bypass UK ports as concern grows about queues and red tape

CLdN, a Luxembourg-based shipping company, has introduced two “mega vessels” on new direct freight routes linking Dublin with the Belgian port of Zeebrugge and the Dutch port of Rotterdam.

Brittany Ferries will start a new service between Cork on Ireland’s southern coast and the Spanish port of Santander this month.

Irish Continental Group will boost freight capacity nearly 10-fold between Dublin and the French port of Cherbourg

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The time at sea will be longer but would offer more certainty over trucking schedules.
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Old 05.04.2018, 21:50
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Shipping groups boost Ireland-EU routes ahead of Brexit
Freight hauliers plan to bypass UK ports as concern grows about queues and red tape

CLdN, a Luxembourg-based shipping company, has introduced two “mega vessels” on new direct freight routes linking Dublin with the Belgian port of Zeebrugge and the Dutch port of Rotterdam.

Brittany Ferries will start a new service between Cork on Ireland’s southern coast and the Spanish port of Santander this month.

Irish Continental Group will boost freight capacity nearly 10-fold between Dublin and the French port of Cherbourg

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The time at sea will be longer but would offer more certainty over trucking schedules.
You missed the power link with France and the Revenue Commissions first survey of customs posts on the NI border.

The Irish government is hoping for the best, while planning for the worst.
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Old 06.04.2018, 00:35
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Brittany Ferries will start a new service between Cork on Ireland’s southern coast and the Spanish port of Santander this month.
I’d love to know how this has anything to do with Brexit.
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Old 06.04.2018, 08:59
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I’d love to know how this has anything to do with Brexit.
Marton already said - they're looking to bypass the UK. I just had a look at the ship to be used and it is clearly freight focused.
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Old 06.04.2018, 09:13
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I’d love to know how this has anything to do with Brexit.
Me too since as far as I know they've always run a direct ferry service from Cork to Santandar.

http://www.brittanyferries.es/rutas-...santander-cork

Any idea how many passenger cars as opposed to trucks use it?
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Me too since as far as I know they've always run a direct ferry service from Cork to Santandar.

http://www.brittanyferries.es/rutas-...santander-cork

Any idea how many passenger cars as opposed to trucks use it?
According to the corporate site it was announced in January 2018 and is the first Ireland - Spain link
http://corporate.brittany-ferries.co...aspx?card=5920
Apparently the capacity is 91 trucks
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Old 06.04.2018, 09:55
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Marton already said - they're looking to bypass the UK. I just had a look at the ship to be used and it is clearly freight focused.
It’s a passenger service. Freight is sent in containers.
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Old 06.04.2018, 09:58
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Maybe for a dedicated freight only, but otherwise BS.
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Old 06.04.2018, 10:22
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It’s a passenger service. Freight is sent in containers.
http://www.brittanyferriesfreight.co...ries/connemara

Capacity 91 trucks.

I presume you have never travelled on a ferry then. They all have plenty of trucks on board. Pretty well all fresh products are shipped as trucks and not as containers for example. Your statement really shows your ignorance in this matter.
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Old 06.04.2018, 11:56
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Me too since as far as I know they've always run a direct ferry service from Cork to Santandar.

http://www.brittanyferries.es/rutas-...santander-cork

Any idea how many passenger cars as opposed to trucks use it?
Me too. There has been talk here and there of discontinuing it but as far as I know, those threats were never acted on.

I guess ferry connections like that have increased in popularity somewhat for truck drivers following the mess that Calais has become.

Also, in view of the tolls and fuel costs, the ferry is probably a fair shade cheaper for trucks.
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Capacity 91 trucks.

I presume you have never travelled on a ferry then. They all have plenty of trucks on board. Pretty well all fresh products are shipped as trucks and not as containers for example. Your statement really shows your ignorance in this matter.
One container ship from Rotterdam to Cork will bring more freight than a months worth of these ferry crossings.
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Old 06.04.2018, 12:01
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I presume you have never travelled on a ferry then. They all have plenty of trucks on board. Pretty well all fresh products are shipped as trucks and not as containers for example. .
Containers are more for long-distance shipping.

Trucks have the advantage that they are wider than containers. Within Europe, the Euro palette has become the standard unit of shipment for everything from fresh fruit to bulding materials. I think the Euro palette is something like 1m by 1.20, and as containers are defined by American sizes, you can't fit Euro palletes in very efficiently. Having just a slighty wider body means you can accomodate a complete extra row. That is why the container will never really catch on for shorter distances.
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Me too since as far as I know they've always run a direct ferry service from Cork to Santandar.
Must admit I also thought...but a little googling seems to back up that it is a first. There has long been Cork - Roscoff and Plymouth - Santander but as far as I can actually see (as opposed to think I remember) never a direct Ireland - Spain route.
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One container ship from Rotterdam to Cork will bring more freight than a months worth of these ferry crossings.
Maybe but irrelevant. The freight volume to Cork would only need a dedicated container ship once every 1 or 2 months. Completely useless for fresh produce or JIT logistics.

There's a mix of services involved and each has its place. Within Europe there is a big place for trucks on ferries as part of that mix.

What do you think this lot are all waiting for
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Not strictly Brexit-related, but he is a Brexiteer, so...

Children's comic Beano accuses Jacob Rees-Mogg of copying character Walter the Softy

Plus: a UK/IT couple cycling across Europe to protest Brexit

Couple to cycle across Europe in Brexit vote protest

https://www.facebook.com/fomtour/
https://fomtour.tumblr.com/
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So, couldn't be clearer- Farage saying Thank you for the help of Breitbart and Bannon:

https://youtu.be/KlM7n8AtW_I
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