The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[marton]

The EU has leapt ahead of the UK in the pursuit of free trade deals with Australia and New Zealand after member states gave the green light for talks to start within weeks.

The international trade secretary, Liam Fox, had recently spoken of “reinvigorating” the Commonwealth partnership with a host of trade deals after Brexit, labelled “empire 2.0” by sceptical Whitehall officials.

But the UK will not be able to start its negotiations over future trade with New Zealand and Australia until 30 March 2019.

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[Jim2007]

	Quote:	marton
	But the UK will not be able to start its negotiations over future trade with New Zealand and Australia until 30 March 2019.

By which time the objective will be to get a deal as good as the one given to the EU.....

[marton]

	Quote:	Jim2007
	By which time the objective will be to get a deal as good as the one given to the EU.....

Which EU deal with Australia and NZ the UK would have got without investing any time and resources but Brexit stopped that.

[marton]

HMRC says 'max fac' customs system preferred by Brexiters could cost business up to £20bn per year.

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Only £20Bn! a bargain

[Blueangel]

	Quote:
	Ex-mayor of Ipswich denied citizenship after almost 40 years in UK

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...40-years-in-uk

[marton]

Meanwhile over in Italy the attempt to form a government collapses over choice of anti-euro economist.
Looks like they may be heading for a new general election.

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	Quote:	marton
	Meanwhile over in Italy the attempt to form a government collapses over choice of anti-euro economist. Looks like they may be heading for a new general election. Source

Wrong thread!

https://www.englishforum.ch/internat...lobalists.html

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Wrong thread!

This will be increasingly inevitable as events of the past few days have shown.

There's a potential schism between May and the DUP over the impending change to abprtion laws in Ireland. Arlene Foster has said it will make no difference in the north. May increasingly needs the DUP support to prop up her right to govern, so dare she defy them on this? Her late reaction to the referendum result suggests not, which in my book, is another shameful indictment of May.

Then we have strong rumours of another G.E. in October, but why?
To bolster May's percentage and secure her leadership without the need for DUP support?
To secure a Tory government further into the extended Brexit negotiations?
To be rid of May altogether and have larger support for a new candidate?

It's become a ridiculous state of affairs, far worse than I expected, and we haven't even left yet.

Just a little side note... I was looking into changing my UK bank account last night, to enable me to manage affairs there. The number of accounts available to expats is shrinking massively. Brexit is a factor, but mainly it appears that there wasn't enough take up of these products to make them viable.

[marton]

Strong rumours that the EU member states have invited the UK to join the long-term EU budget planning for 2021-2027.

This managed to upset the Brexiteers and the EU Commission, both of whom expected the UK to be gone before 2021.

It is seen as giving the UK the opportunity to participate in EU programs after 2020.

As we know it is the EU member states who make the decisions in the EU, not the Commission, so if the rumours are true this would give the UK a number of opportunities.

[marton]

Britain could rejoin the European Union in the future, Jacob Rees-Mogg has admitted.

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[Blueangel]

Oh FFS!!!!! He's one peculiar creature. Did you see him on Andrew Marr on Sunday? Pious little man quoted this....

Patience is a virtue. Virtue is a grace
Grace is a little girl who doesn't wash her face...

Then he said, "I'm sure your listeners will enjoy that"

It's a TV show you throwback dimwit!!! The viewers were watching your smug attitude. I've never ever met a man like him, so dog only knows who he'd represent.

[Urs Max]

And what exactly is so horribly stupid about that?

	Quote:	Rees-Mogg
	If in 30 years' time the UK wants to rejoin that would be a matter for the electorate then but this result [the Brexit vote] must be respected and it must be implemented otherwise we would find our democracy held in as much contempt as that in Greece and Italy by the European Union.”

The clarification in square brackets is my addition.

[marton]

	Quote:	Urs Max
	And what exactly is so horribly stupid about that? The clarification in square brackets is my addition.

30 years is an necessarily long time. In UK there are general elections at not longer intervals than four years where voters can change the entire Government so logically four years would be long enough to ask the Brexit question again

[mohmal]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...40-years-in-uk

Endless issues such as the above (and of course NHS fraud / healthcare tourism) would disappear if the UK government weren't so adamant to registering their population properly!

[Jim2007]

Leading Brexiteer Lord Lawson applies for French residency

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	It seemed to Lawson that no cost was not worth paying to leave. But with this news, it seems the cost will be paid by others while the former chancellor suns himself in his luxury home in France.

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And yet another one abdicates responsibility for the course of action he championed!

[TobiasM]

And whump, Trumps trade Tariffs go through, no exceptions for the UK, so the UK has been truly trumped and is up Trump creek with no Boris paddle.

[Chuff]

	Quote:	TobiasM
	And whump, Trumps trade Tariffs go through, no exceptions for the UK, so the UK has been truly trumped and is up Trump creek with no Boris paddle.

What has his decision got to do with Brexit?

[TobiasM]

	Quote:	Chuff
	What has his decision got to do with Brexit?

Its scuppered any hopes of improved post Brexit trade deals with the US as we had been promised by May, Rees Moog and Boris. I am just stating an obvious point that we are still worse off out then in.


And if you cant see the relation to Brexit, then sorry.

	Quote:	marton
	30 years is an necessarily long time. In UK there are general elections at not longer intervals than four years where voters can change the entire Government so logically four years would be long enough to ask the Brexit question again

5 years

The U.K. steel industry is a joke run by Indians that is in terminal decline anyhow. It took government intervention to prevent Port Talbot from closing a couple of years back. These tariffs will hit the rest of the EU much harder.