The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[fatmanfilms]

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	After closing their Glasgow one. Another great win for regional Britain (who incidentally voted overwhelmingly against Brexit).

It's just a matter of business, clearly more people want to fly from near London than Scotland.

[Urs Max]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Soft Brexit is basically remaining in the EU in everything but name. Actually remaining in the EU is preferential to this outcome.

Fair enough. But how then is the UK leaving still a good thing (see your #12013) under the assumption of a most soft Brexit?

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	It's just a matter of business, clearly more people want to fly from near London than Scotland.

Sure, but closing one hub and opening another isn't quite the pro-Brexit outcome you were intimating.

	Quote:	Urs Max
	Fair enough. But how then is the UK leaving still a good thing (see your #12013) under the assumption of a most soft Brexit?

Changes to any deal will still be possible, and without the need to leave again.

However if it remained a soft Brexit for a longer period of time then that wouldn’t be a good thing.

[fatmanfilms]

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	Sure, but closing one hub and opening another isn't quite the pro-Brexit outcome you were intimating.

More flights from an Airline who was talking of pulling out of the U.K. I guess it will sink in with time, London is a huge market, Scotland is not, if people wanted to fly to Scotland in large quantities the no of flights would increase.

Perhaps Scotland will leave the UK & become a full member of the EU, no doubt Goldman Sachs can fudge the figures as they did for Greece.

[Jim2007]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Everything from that crap election campaign to party infighting has done nothing but weaken the UK's negotiating position.

Position, what position? When you are dealing with a major trading block, you get to turn up and decide to take who's on offer or not. If you are luck, you might get a couple of face saving measure to make it more palatable to your voters. The UK is going to face the exact same situation in trying to negotiate a deal with the US and so on.

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	More flights from an Airline who was talking of pulling out of the U.K. I guess it will sink in with time, London is a huge market, Scotland is not, if people wanted to fly to Scotland in large quantities the no of flights would increase. Perhaps Scotland will leave the UK & become a full member of the EU, no doubt Goldman Sachs can fudge the figures as they did for Greece.

I'd have thought there would be loads of people in Scotland trying to fly OUT!

[fatmanfilms]

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	I'd have thought there would be loads of people in Scotland trying to fly OUT!

Why does some enterprising Scot not fill the gap then?

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Why does some enterprising Scot not fill the gap then?

Because most enterprising Scots know not to take jokes literally?

	Quote:	Jim2007
	Position, what position? When you are dealing with a major trading block, you get to turn up and decide to take who's on offer or not. If you are luck, you might get a couple of face saving measure to make it more palatable to your voters. The UK is going to face the exact same situation in trying to negotiate a deal with the US and so on.

There is no position because of the split government.

Trump in the last few weeks has proven the second part of your post to be nonsense.

[fatmanfilms]

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	Because most enterprising Scots know not to take jokes literally?

The Airline industry as a whole has made zero profits since 17 December 1903, when the Wright Brothers made their first flight. Scotland is unlikely to be the place to invest if your dumb enough to invest in Air travel infrastructure in the first place.

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	The Airline industry as a whole has made zero profits since 17 December 1903, when the Wright Brothers made their first flight. Scotland is unlikely to be the place to invest if your dumb enough to invest in Air travel infrastructure in the first place.

The world as a whole has made zero profits since we started counting money. That doesn't mean certain individuals haven't been profitable.

I'm still not sure why you are doubling down on what I've now stated (twice!) was a joke about people like me wanting to escape Scotland, though.

Just to reiterate, my line about people wanting out of Scotland was a joke.

Hope that's clear now.

[k_and_e]

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	Just to reiterate, my line about people wanting out of Scotland was a joke.

if you need two posts to explain your joke, it certainly wasn't a good one

	Quote:	k_and_e
	if you need two posts to explain your joke, it certainly wasn't a good one

To be fair, most people probably got it immediately and moved on. Others took a little longer .

	Quote:	k_and_e
	if you need two posts to explain your joke, it certainly wasn't a good one

Can't argue with that, but as a Scottish Flüchtling myself, it made me chuckle.

[TobiasM]

Aside from reaffirming that Wetherspoons are crap pubs, can anyone list me the positives of Brexit as of today?

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Why does some enterprising Scot not fill the gap then?

What gap? I've booked literally thousands of clients on flights to and via GLA and possibly a few hundred to Southend. Corporate travellers don't like Southend because it's the first or second airport to close due to fog. It's always a toss up which will close first, Southend or City.

Glasgow is the 8th busiest UK airport with direct flights to Canada & the US, plus regional flights with Loganair (Scottish airline) and short haul with BA, Lufthansa, Germanwings, Easyjet, TUI, etc...etc...etc....

At Southend, Ryanair will be up against Flybe and and limited number of Easyjet flights. If Flybe does get carved up soon, which has been on the cards for a good while now, Ryanair will grab their slots. It's a business no brainer... Loads of slots and precious little competition means they'll be able to charge what they like, and people will pay it for the sake of convenience. KLM have been doing that for years on their Humberside to Amsterdam run.

[amogles]

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	To be fair, most people probably got it immediately and moved on. Others took a little longer .

Some people also noticed that the response was also a joke. Others felt the need to explain something.

	Quote:	Blueangel
	What gap? I've booked literally thousands of clients on flights to and via GLA and possibly a few hundred to Southend. Corporate travellers don't like Southend because it's the first or second airport to close due to fog. It's always a toss up which will close first, Southend or City. Glasgow is the 8th busiest UK airport with direct flights to Canada & the US, plus regional flights with Loganair (Scottish airline) and short haul with BA, Lufthansa, Germanwings, Easyjet, TUI, etc...etc...etc.... At Southend, Ryanair will be up against Flybe and and limited number of Easyjet flights. If Flybe does get carved up soon, which has been on the cards for a good while now, Ryanair will grab their slots. It's a business no brainer... Loads of slots and precious little competition means they'll be able to charge what they like, and people will pay it for the sake of convenience. KLM have been doing that for years on their Humberside to Amsterdam run.

Always good to get an informed opinion on these things. Thanks.

	Quote:	amogles
	Some people also noticed that the response was also a joke. Others felt the need to explain something.

I don't think so. It was even worse than mine if it was!