The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[amogles]

	Quote:	marton
	Conquest of the Levant: 634–641 Conquest of Egypt: 639–642 Conquest of Mesopotamia and Persia: 633–651 Conquest of Sindh: 711–714 Conquest of the Maghreb: 647–742 Conquest of Hispania and Septimania: 711–721 Then there were the Crusades.

bless him.

[marton]

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	Aw, bless your cotton socks. Now log off wikipedia, go and read a history book, and stop acting like a precocious eight year old.

Sounds like you are having an extra frustrating week? Maybe a nice cup of tea would help?

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	Now log off wikipedia, go and read a history book, and stop acting like a precocious eight year old.

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	I love having the bleeding obvious explained to me.

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	Sometimes I think you must be a bit simple.

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	UK does not do French style elections.

But Greening is proposing a 3 option referendum with the public choosing their 1st and 2nd option. Her reasoning is that it's how mayors are selected.

https://news.sky.com/video/greening-...ecide-11438572

Downing Street have just blown that idea clean out of the water... https://news.sky.com/story/live-no-s...treet-11438505

...and we have another resignation...

https://news.sky.com/story/may-suffe...-plan-11438048

I wish to christ there'd been a cross party coalition government to get us through this mess, instead of an increasingly splintered Tory minority government. "Strong and stable"

[bowlie]

Funny (ie ironic) that they resign from the Cabinet but not from Parliament. If only a couple had done so we would be into another election.

Or crossing the floor ... but no one seems to have the guts for that.

[Blueangel]

They all know it would only take one, and under normal circumstances, the MP for Burton would be gone and a G.E. date announced.

[amogles]

	Quote:	bowlie
	Funny (ie ironic) that they resign from the Cabinet but not from Parliament. If only a couple had done so we would be into another election. Or crossing the floor ... but no one seems to have the guts for that.

Just imagine the havoc Boris could cause from the ranks of Labour.

That could well be May's only chance to get re-elected.

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	Aw, bless your cotton socks. Now log off wikipedia, go and read a history book, and stop acting like a precocious eight year old.

It definitely wasn't religious, because after "winning" the wars none of the victors persecuted people of different religions who they had conquered.

Oh.

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	amogles
	Just imagine the havoc Boris could cause from the ranks of Labour.

That's the stuff of nightmares

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	So please (not you, Odile) no more reported posts just because a mod disagrees with you.

It is not about disagreeing, but it is the way and the hidden insults - the ultimate t'internet reply 'calm down', etc. Which is provocatively passive-aggressive and insulting in the extreme, not an 'opinion' to be agreed or disagreed with. On any issue where some members are strongly affected personally, be it mental health issues, as recently, or with Brexit. OTT, totally. Mods are indeed entitled to their opinion.

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	It definitely wasn't religious, because after "winning" the wars none of the victors persecuted people of different religions who they had conquered. Oh.

It was a bit more complicated than that. Everybody needs a flag.

[MusicChick]

Yep, I totally think potus has made a London stop to support brexit, I was not joking. His visit was not only related but strategic.

My "Calm down" reply was to this:

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	WTAF???

The post was pointing out a typo while complaining of sidetracking the debate, ironically.

How affected people are by what's happening in the UK now - I hope the UK can show a good precedence for others. The entire EU is following what's happening, closely.

I'm just wondering what happened to the coven and whether now would be a good time to launch English Talk again...

[marton]

	Quote:	MusicChick
	Yep, I totally think potus has made a London stop to support brexit, I was not joking. His visit was not only related but strategic. My "Calm down" reply was to this: The post was pointing out a typo while complaining of sidetracking the debate, ironically. How affected people are by what's happening in the UK now - I hope the UK can show a good precedence for others. The entire EU is following what's happening, closely.

As you posted earlier, such visits are about trade. In this case promoting his Turnberry golf course.

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	MusicChick
	My "Calm down" reply was to this:

Then perhaps you should contact Robert Peston and tell him to "calm down", as the title of his new book is 'WTF?' https://twitter.com/Peston?ref_src=t...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

[Blueangel]

Another one bites the dust...

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	Robert Peston‏Verified account @Peston Robert Peston Retweeted Scott Mann So it rolls on, remorselessly Robert Peston added, Scott MannVerified account @scottmann4NC It is with a great deal of sadness that I have tendered my resignation as a Parliamentary Private Secretary at the Treasury. 3:03 AM - 16 Jul 2018

https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1018798343227695104

How long can May survive this? Surely the 1922 Committee must be close to having 48 letters now.

	Quote:	Blueangel
	Another one bites the dust... How long can May survive this? Surely the 1922 Committee must be close to having 48 letters now.

They've already got the letters probably not the numbers to oust her. Tory rules mean you can only have one leadership race per year so they're probably biding their time until they know they can be rid of her for good.

[MusicChick]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	Then perhaps you should contact Robert Peston and tell him to "calm down", as the title of his new book is 'WTF?' https://twitter.com/Peston?ref_src=t...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Perhaps I don't think I should

One tweet is enough, May being portrayed as a carrot losing her persuasive powers? Isn't what Trump meant by his "put down" directed at May? There we go. People don't follow leaders they feel sorry for. They are more likely to follow those who make them angry. Fan club.

May was way too decent and slow, again - I think the EU could have helped, but they were sidetracked by costal vigilence. A situation Merkel has created.

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	They've already got the letters probably not the numbers to oust her. Tory rules mean you can only have one leadership race per year so they're probably biding their time until they know they can be rid of her for good.

The estimates from people who claim to 'be in the know' this morning were, there's between 35-42 letters already submitted, but the MPs want their summer holiday.

Johnson, Gove, Greening, Javid? Or do you see any more contenders?
Rees-Mogg, Mordaunt, Hunt (please god no!!) ?

	Quote:	Blueangel
	The estimates from people who claim to 'be in the know' this morning were, there's between 35-42 letters already submitted, but the MPs want their summer holiday. Johnson, Gove, Greening, Javid? Or do you see any more contenders? Rees-Mogg, Mordaunt, Hunt (please god no!!) ?

Someone call Dante! He needs to include another circle of hell for this shower.

[Urs Max]

	Quote:	marton
	Sounds like you are having an extra frustrating week? Maybe a nice cup of tea would help?

Please stop making up stuff, marton. DB doesn't do ad hominems. Never.

Trust me.