The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[MusicChick]

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	No-one knows what will happen Tobias- That is how it was in the early 70s. For the future- you will need to get a crystal ball, because no-one has a ******* clue what will happen post Brexit- in the EU- or with Switzerland.

Switzerland has the least to panic about.

I'd take it as an inspiration.

[SOBEIT]

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	Not if you're the only adult in the party, and not if a large number of the Egates are O.O.O. as is often the case Tobias.

Good thing about the egates in Gatwick are kids 12 and over can access them alone. Hope ZH will come on board....

[Belgianmum]

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	No need to be so unpleasant and patronising, for sure.

Was that comment aimed at me? Because if it was I find it pretty insulting.
I won’t be wasting any more of my time trying to be helpful that’s for sure, I’ll leave you to it.

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	Like I say, we've never been split up at any airport, including trips to England, Cyprus, Greece and the United States. I'd be very surprised if that was actually a policy anywhere in the civilised world.

Well it was for me, in the UK, in the early 70s- and since some of you want the UK to go back to pre EU days- no-one knows what will happen. To UK citizens, or to Swiss ones ....

[SOBEIT]

That’s democracy for you.

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	Well it was for me, in the UK, in the early 70s- and since some of you want the UK to go back to pre EU days- no-one knows what will happen. To UK citizens, or to Swiss ones ....

Last time I looked, the United States wasn't in the EU.

But don't let that spoil your Chicken Licken routine.

"They'll split up families and make the Daddy breastfeed the crying baby and make crippled people wait for three hours and deny them a wheelchair because they're not in pain even though they are but they're not and they are and I know people who pretend to be old so they can get a wheelchair and breastfeed their baby at the front of the non-EU lane and what will we do with our seventeen different passports and I'm the only person who lived in the seventies and I'm a hundred and eight you know and isn't the price of butter disgusting and I remember how they used to make us line up in a cage and spray us down with sheepdip liquid and I was at Ellis Island at Gatwick and they made me walk a hundred miles without feet because I had to breastfeed a sleeping ten year old and it'll be just like the days before they invented passports and I met a Japanese once so I'm not racist and..."

The USA? I do hope you get better soon DB, I really do, honest.

I have been to the USA many many times- but never before the early 90s - and my kids were defo no longer BFeeding- for sure.

I also took the baby on her own, and was allowed to queue with her, in the long queue for non-Brits, returning to UK. We had to hold her upright on the photographer's chair, with kneeling down and twisting the babygrow at the back so she would be steady enough for the photo for her own passport as she could not be on mine.

Take care.

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	The USA? I do hope you get better soon DB, I really do, honest.

I'm perfectly healthy, but thanks for your concern.

Glad to hear- you did seem a bit 'confused'...

and seemed to somehow doubt that I had to queue separately to H and baby. She could not be on my passport, as we had different nationalities- believe me or not- I truly don't care.

At the risk of lengthening the queuing segue-that-isnt... my US friend, with a US passport and her UK hubby with UK passport (and greencard) and their three kids aging from 3 to 14 all with both UK and US passports... don't get split up. Ever. In fact when first travelling UK-US with their first born, they were told on both sides of the Atlantic that a US parent accompanying a minor with a UK passport should always get in EU queue when entering UK.I think she always just shows both passports to everyone tbh.

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	But I did Tobias, pre EU- and pre my acquisition of British nationality, and pre reciprocal agreements with CH. As I mentioned above- OH and baby going through in minutes- and me stuck for ages in the other queue, non British. I did not mind the company at all - but it did take ages- and one of the reasons I applied for British nationality immediately after. A baby screaming in the airport waiting for her mum so she could be BF after the flight- is not much fun- especially when you are disabled or in pain.

Providing ONE memeber of the family had a British passport, all the other members of the family could go through on this using their own passports of course.

Odile: I wish you peace and health.

I love a good internet punch-up, but this just isn't fair.

	Quote:	Belgianmum
	It might be a good idea to take a break or spend a bit more time composing your posts rather than rushing in and posting the random thoughts that pop into your head in your ridiculous sparring match with FMF and DB. You make some good points but it is becoming increasingly difficult to weed out the useful stuff amongst all the other rubbish.

Oh, that's the only amusing thing left on this thread now, everthing else ha already been stated in triplicate already.

[amogles]

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	No-one knows what will happen Tobias- That is how it was in the early 70s. For the future- you will need to get a crystal ball, because no-one has a ******* clue what will happen post Brexit- in the EU- or with Switzerland.

What about that hellfire & brimstone prophecy the Bremainers were telling us about, and the thing about the locusts? I was actually looking forward to those.

Don't tell me the people who promised us that didn't have a clue either.

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	Providing ONE memeber of the family had a British passport, all the other members of the family could go through on this using their own passports of course.

Well, I am glad for you. We were told that I had to queue with non British passport holders - and we did, just as described. What else can I tell you. Ask OH, he remembers it so well- with baby desperate sucking on his shirt, whilst waiting for me for ages.

No DB, it is not fair - not fair at all. Re-read your posts and you will see. It starts with 'She's talking about the coloured people, BM. Surely you've seen all the coloured people in Sicily and Malta? They don't come from Europe, do they?

And can you imagine having to line up with them at passport control?! ' - and goes on and on. And why did we have to split up- because it was then, pre EU, pre reciprocal agreements- and there were clear and separate queues then. How does your experience 45 years later compare with ours then?!? Were you even born?

BM-I agree it is pathetic- and never initiated at this end, and as predictable as can be.

[Blueangel]

Just wondering if Scottish passports could become 'a thing'.

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	Scotland's Brexit bill is 'perfectly practical', supreme court told Judges are being asked to rule on political standoff between Holyrood and Westminster

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...e-court-judges

[st2lemans]

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	She could not be on my passport, as we had different nationalities.

Well, OBVIOUSLY.

To have a child on your passport, you must have THE SAME NATIONALITY!

In any case, having kids on your passport hasn't been allowed in years.

Tom

[st2lemans]

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	Surely you've seen all the coloured people in Sicily and Malta? They don't come from Europe, do they?

Actually, most that I've met certainly DO.

The colored people in mainland Italy as well.

Tom

[greenmount]

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	Well, I am glad for you. We were told that I had to queue with non British passport holders - and we did, just as described. What else can I tell you. Ask OH, he remembers it so well- with baby desperate sucking on his shirt, whilst waiting for me for ages. No DB, it is not fair - not fair at all. Re-read your posts and you will see. It starts with 'She's talking about the coloured people, BM. Surely you've seen all the coloured people in Sicily and Malta? They don't come from Europe, do they? And can you imagine having to line up with them at passport control?! ' - and goes on and on. And why did we have to split up- because it was then, pre EU, pre reciprocal agreements- and there were clear and separate queues then. How does your experience 45 years later compare with ours then?!? Were you even born? BM-I agree it is pathetic- and never initiated at this end, and as predictable as can be.

I wouldn't get upset because of this thread derailing, really. It's actually amusing, if you want to shut someone down accuse them of racism. But really, I tried to understand your POV and can't see what Brexit has to do with reinstalling border controls in places like Malta, Sicily, Crete. In these circumstances everybody will have to wait in line and have their passports checked, and who can blame EU or Brexit or what not for that?
But back to separate queues for a short moment. I think that things have changed since you had to split up from your hubby and baby, it seems most people here had a different experience recently.
Let's leave those queues and border controls out of this discussion, I am sure there will be other post-Brexit challenges to worry about. I think your mistake was that you brought up a subject that is simply irrelevant for other pps. I don't like the way people reply to you, but please take a step backward and try to detach yourself from this discussion. It is obvious that your point didn't get across, let's leave it at that.

[greenmount]

	Quote:	st2lemans
	Actually, most that I've met certainly DO. The colored people in mainland Italy as well. Tom

Tom, Tom...it wasn't Odile that referred to "coloured people". Please, be a gentleman. ;-)