The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[MusicChick]

It is not so hard to dislike some of the EU politics. Or is it assumed that because one is a member of the EU, one cannot disagree with some of their policies?

[greenmount]

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	It is not so hard to dislike some of the EU politics. Or is it assumed that because one is a member of the EU, one cannot disagree with some of their policies?

Probably in the same way as some hotheads believe you're not a good <ins> any nationality</ins> should you criticise your country..

[MusicChick]

It looks like for even mentioning one's opinion on one particular policy, some EFrs here need disclaimers we the EEs otherwise appreciate our great chance for amazing life the EU is granting to us for big Western bucks. Just accept all the other globalising mess and moral decay. I mean...liberties.

[marton]

Bank of England raises base rate today from .5% to .75%

And then the value of sterling fell

[marton]

	Quote:	amogles
	So intentional misconceptions are better than accidental ones?

Ah, the eternal search for the "correct" answer.

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	“Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.” ― Aaron Levenstein

[Urs Max]

Expats complaining about international migration.

Only on EF.

Time to bring back the Saisonnierstatut (google!). At least that ensured them bloody forrriners (of south European origin, mostly, in its time) would hence they came once they were no longer useful. But perhaps nowadays that would include EF members were it not for the Bilaterale and the EU.

	Quote:	Urs Max
	Expats complaining about international migration.

You don't understand - it doesn't apply to them. They are unique.

Apparently.

[greenmount]

	Quote:	Urs Max
	Expats complaining about international migration. Only on EF. Time to bring back the Saisonnierstatut (google!). At least that ensured them bloody forrriners (of south European origin, mostly, in its time) would hence they came once they were no longer useful. But perhaps nowadays that would include EF members were it not for the Bilaterale and the EU.

Nice try, Urs Max. Not the first one to use this argument with me, how ridiculous! Bilaterals and EU thing never ever helped me here, or anywhere in the generous and fair EU, as a matter of fact. Always had to go through study, work permits, visas and such. When we're not useful to CH anymore, I am pretty sure we're out of here. CH doesn't strike me as a particularly charitable land when it comes to these things. Good for them.

Meantime, I think we earned us the right to stay here. The amount in taxes we payed by now and everything that will follow, the 0 social benefits payed to us and 0 investments in our education...well, it was and still is a nice deal for the Swiss. Wish more countries would benefit from such, not only a selected few.

The funniest part is that we're also among people who rarely do their shopping abroad. You should see how many Swiss are in Konstanz at weekends lol....what, am I more patriotic than them? Naaaah, it can't be. We're with those bilaterals and such. Maybe you'll even be so kind to use the Euro trash term, no? Euro rednecks? Open season to bashing. Suit yourself.

We're NOT.

[versus]

And anyway, shouldn't it be about making CH useful for you and not making yourself useful to CH?!

[st2lemans]

	Quote:	Urs Max
	perhaps nowadays that would include EF members were it not for the Bilaterale and the EU.

Bilaterals and the EU have nothing whatsoever with me being here.

Tom

[versus]

	Quote:	st2lemans
	Bilaterals and the EU have nothing whatsoever with me being here. Tom

And surely that would apply to nearly all who arrived before the bilateral nonsense began!

[greenmount]

	Quote:	versus
	And anyway, shouldn't it be about making CH useful for you and not making yourself useful to CH?!

That's a good question. As an immigrant you'd go where things can also work for you.

If you're staying in your home country the "don't ask what your country can do for you, ask yourself what can you do for your country" applies. Or it should. But to BS the furigners with this? Nah.

[versus]

	Quote:	greenmount
	As an immigrant you'd go where things can also work for you..

Exactly. Which is why I came. It's not just about what you put in, but also about what you can get out.

[NotAllThere]

	Quote:	st2lemans
	Bilaterals and the EU have nothing whatsoever with me being here. Tom

#nor_me

[MusicChick]

	Quote:	st2lemans
	Bilaterals and the EU have nothing whatsoever with me being here. Tom

I think this should be nominated for the post of the decade.

	Quote:	st2lemans
	Bilaterals and the EU have nothing whatsoever with me being here. Tom

	Quote:	NotAllThere
	#nor_me

I'm with them.

And I earn less in Switzerland than I did in my home country.

And I don't miss brown sugar, and it's not significant that I can't stand Cenovis, as I don't do Marmite or Vegemite, either.

[greenmount]

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	as I don't do Marmite .

Is that bad? Or better asked - how is it? (curiosity may kill the cat)

	Quote:	greenmount
	Is that bad? Or better asked - how is it? (curiosity may kill the cat)

Marmite is excellent. But divisive!

	Quote:	greenmount
	Is that bad? Or better asked - how is it? (curiosity may kill the cat)

For an Australian, no, it's not bad that I don't do Marmite. Just don't tell the Australian Border Force about my Vegemite aversion.

You can get a pretty good idea of what either is like by buying a tube of Cenovis and eating a chunk of it. The usual approach is to squeeze a good dessert spoonful out and pop it straight into your mouth.

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	Marmite is excellent. But divisive!

Indeed, it rapidly sorts those with tastebuds from those without. Or at least, those with insensitivity to salty tastes.