The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

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Farage now says a Norway style deal is not at all what people voted for

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But, but, but... we can catch our own fish!

Gotta love Farage, he never fails to come out of most of his public appearances looking like a total melt.

[bowlie]

One of the top ten from Edinburgh:

"Why are they calling it Brexit and not The Great British Break Off?" - Alex Edelman

[Urs Max]

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The scumbag knows all too well it's better for him to not assume any responsibility for the outcome, that enables him to criticize whatever Brexit may result in.

[marton]

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	The U.K. and the EU will now negotiate “continuously” in pursuit of a Brexit withdrawal deal, the bloc’s chief negotiator Michel Barnier and his opposite number Dominic Raab said. Speaking to the press after a meeting in Brussels Tuesday, Barnier said the negotiations were now entering their “final stage” and pledged regular meetings with Raab. The U.K. Brexit secretary said their next meeting would be next week.

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Sounds positive?

So Barry Gardiner (Labour) says Labour cannot oppose Brexit as it would lead to civil violence. Just how Farage said it would, and the reason he is rejoining the political limelight- and will get the support of the EDL and Britai First. Are our politicians and ourselves going to allow to be blackmailed in this way ?

Corbyn is asked 5 times on Channel 4 interview if the UK will be better or worse after Brexit- and he waffles on with something like 'we will fight to have our cake and eat it' I hope Conference explodes in his face and forces him to come off the bl**dy fence!

[Blueangel]

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	Sounds positive?

Sounds like cramming the night before an exam, which might have got me a decent mark in my maths 'O'level, but this is a bit bigger than that.

My cramming was hugely distracted by the announcement of Bob Marley's death, so I can only wonder what distractions are going to happen within the next 6mths.

[Reb77Br]

Wonder if Putin would approve of a Momentum of the hard right.

The Tories are uniquely vulnerable to hard-right entryism

"Leave.EU, the hard Brexit campaign group run by Arron Banks, has urged its supporters to sign up as Conservative members in order to swing the result of the next leadership election towards Jacob Rees-Mogg or Boris Johnson."

Arron Banks, Brexit and the Russia connection
Revealed: details of exclusive Russian deal offered to Arron Banks in Brexit run-up

[Blueangel]

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	Gotta love Farage, he never fails to come out of most of his public appearances looking like a total melt.

Unelected bloke warns UK of being dictated to by unelected blokes.
Give him 12mths and he'll be happily gobbling Kangaroo testicles for a living. I hope he chokes on them.

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	Unelected bloke warns UK of being dictated to by unelected blokes. Give him 12mths and he'll be happily gobbling Kangaroo testicles for a living. I hope he chokes on them.

His gammon-pink hue and bulging eyes suggests he already has...

[marton]

Britain has published the first batch of 25 so-called technical notices advising companies and people how to prepare for any disruption that might arise from a disorderly Brexit where there is no deal with the European Union.

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Recommend Brexiteers do not read this, contains a lot of depressing stuff. Seems there will be a lot of new regulations and Govt. bodies

[Reb77Br]

All coverage here, including links to Dominic Raab's speech and to the government's planning papers. Can't help but wonder if part of the reason for publishing this information is to get Remain voters "on board" with wanting any deal (i.e. Brexit) rather than no deal. Perhaps Farage's intended rabble-rousing for no deal will have the same effect.

Corbyn has apparently admitted he thinks the UK would be better off outside the EU (if Labour were in charge).

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	Corbyn says, if Labour were running Brexit, UK could end up better off outside EU In his Q&A Jeremy Corbyn said something quite interesting about Brexit (which is the main focus of the blog today); he said the UK could be better off outside the EU if Labour were in charge of the Brexit process. This came when Corbyn was asked about his refusal six times to answer a question earlier this week from a Channel 4 News journalist about whether he thinks the UK would be better off outside the EU. See 10.46am for the clip. (Originally I put the wrong clip in the 10.46am post, but the right one is there now. You may have to refresh the page to get it to appear.) Corbyn told the Edinburgh audience today that Labour would prioritise trade links with the EU in the Brexit talks. He went on: If you go down the road that’s being promoted by the Tory right, of a deal with the United States, we undoubtedly would be a lot worse off. I think the proposals that Labour is putting forward, and the way that Labour would conduct those negotiations, would make sure that people would be as well off or better off. But, fundamentally, it is also about how we run our economy in this country because we would be investing for the future rather than cutting for the future. This is mildly controversial because many in Labour think that there are no circumstances whatsoever in which the UK could be better off outside the EU, regardless of who is in charge of the talks. https://www.theguardian.com/politics...b0447fbe85e916

[Urs Max]

	Quote:	Reb77Br
	All coverage here, including links to Dominic Raab's speech and to the government's planning papers. Can't help but wonder if part of the reason for publishing this information is to get Remain voters "on board" with wanting any deal (i.e. Brexit) rather than no deal. Perhaps Farage's intended rabble-rousing for no deal will have the same effect.

What makes you think so? The UK needs to re-establish the government agencies that were delegated to the EU. So there will need to be quite a few new (or not so new if you look back 30 years) agencies and regulations the UK will take direct control of again.

The big problem is that, in a no-deal scenario, this needs to be done in a hurry, and that haste makes waste.

[Jim2007]

NI businesses advised to contact Irish government in case of no-deal Brexit

I'm sure the DUP will be only to delighted with this... NOT.

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	However, the department urged businesses in Northern Ireland to contact the Irish government for advice, stating: "The Irish government have indicated they would need to discuss arrangements in the event of a no deal with the European Commission and EU member states.

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It is kind of a strange statement to me though, it seems the expect the businesses to sort their own arrangements out.....

[Sky]

I thought there would be a lot of discussion on this thread after today's news.
The silence preoccupies me even more.

What do you think of it all?

I've come to love England dearly. It seems to me the people wanted an England as it was before, instead they are getting something they had no idea of.

[3Wishes]

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	I thought there would be a lot of discussion on this thread after today's news. The silence preoccupies me even more. What do you think of it all? I've come to love England dearly. It seems to me the people wanted an England as it was before, instead they are getting something they had no idea of.

Maybe everyone is in shock?

[marton]

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	Maybe everyone is in shock?

Na!
They are all in denial

[Urs Max]

What happened?

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	What happened?

The government published a document advising the public what to do in the event of a no-deal departure from the EU.

Seems to be some kind of back door, gentle way of saying "we're pretty sure this is how it's going to go".

[Urs Max]

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	The government published a document advising the public what to do in the event of a no-deal departure from the EU. Seems to be some kind of back door, gentle way of saying "we're pretty sure this is how it's going to go".

Oh, that. Thanks, didn't make the connection.