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I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Ah, a poll from The Sun - no doubt of their readers who are known to be a good objective source of information

Could be worst - it could have come from the Daily Wail !!




The BIG problem with a 2nd Referendum at this stage of the game, is that it would only make a Hard, no
deal Brexit even more likely. As the 2nd Referendum will most likely ask the people - Do you accept TM's
Chequers deal with the EU or not ?

Such a Referendum question would serve no purpose and will only cause more delay and uncertainty for
business and British Expats.

It's hardly likely to ask the People to vote on the same question as the 1st Referendum, on whether
Britain should remain a member of the EU or Not ?
Which I'm sure is the sort of Referendum question most British Expats who want to Remain, would prefer.

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No, a second referendum should ask exactly the same question as the first. Tying a second referendum to an increasingly remote future act of Parliament would be insane.

Ask the same question and if leave is the answer then leave. That is the only option.

Chequers. The EU hates it, cherry-picking. Most of the Conservative party hates it, wouldn’t survive a vote in Westminster. Labour doesn’t have a clue.

Either in, or out.
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Old 03.09.2018, 21:02
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No, a second referendum should ask exactly the same question as the first. Tying a second referendum to an increasingly remote future act of Parliament would be insane.

Ask the same question and if leave is the answer then leave. That is the only option.
This is the same BS that got them into the situation in the first place. This is not a simple yes/no question. If you are going to do this at all, then you do it properly, you ask the questions that need to be asked. There is no reason why British votes can't deal with complex issues just like in Switzerland, Ireland, Denmark and France, it is an insult to suggest they can't.
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That is why when you decide to buy a house, you are able to pull out if and when you have done a survey and realise there are massive issues with it you were not aware of when you initially visited it.
In the UK yes, in the rest of Europe no, you sign a contract & your the buyer surveys are very unusual in Europe & CH.

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No contract was signed - no-one in their right mind would sign a contract without proper enquiries or survey made - article 50 was not any kind of contract- but an affirmation of intention, that is all. Now we all know about the lies, the fraud- and the consequences - time to ask the people again, no? That is democracy.

We said we would like to buy the house- we then spoke to all the local artisans about the plumbing, the roof, roof structure and beams (date 1663), heating, electrics, etc, etc and checked the bills for renovations for the past 20 years - talked to neighbours and previous residents (eg the last 3 Vicars). Not totally daft, you know - oh and 2 local architects and a surveyor- old school friends, very useful that. Checked about planning permission for back extension and future horse stables next to the house so horses can be kept in our fields. Then we got the price down significantly ... THEN we signed the contract.

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article 50 was not any kind of contract- but an affirmation of intention, that is all.
The invocation of A50 is legally binding as a treaty provision and it has legal consequences. The treaties of the EU are unique in that they are not only treaties between nations, but between peoples of nations. Meaning that any EU citizen can take a case as far as the ECJ requiring the specific performance of A50, should the UK attempt to withdraw it. I expect some of the BREXIT boys and girls will head of the queue to do so.
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Do you have clear link for that?

The man who wrote Article 50, Lord Kerr, the UK’s former ambassador to the EU, has reiterate how it’s possible to reverse course. He said:

At any stage we can change our minds if we want to, and if we did we know that our partners would actually be very pleased indeed. The Brexiters create the impression that is because of the way Article 50 is written that having sent in a letter on 29 March 2017 we must leave automatically on 29 March, 2019 at the latest. That is not true.
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Please double check the ECJ procedures. The ability of an individual (or a company) to seek redress in the ECJ is in cases where member states have failed to apply, or incorrectly applied, a regulation or directive. In cases of interpretations of treaties cases may only be acted on following a referral from national court (s). There is no obligation for them to accept such a referral. There is also no obligation for them to consider an expedited schedule.

I realise that you are hoping that the ECJ could overrule a restated will of the British electorate. Realistically if the people decided to collectively change their minds no court is going to invalidate their choice.
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Boris Johnson's children's names: Lara Lettice, Milo Arthur, Cassia Peaches and Theodore Apollo (source: Boris Johnson and wife Marina Wheeler to get divorced)

Jacob Rees-Mogg's children's names: Peter Theodore Alphege, Mary Anne Charlotte Emma, Thomas Wentworth Somerset Dunstan, Anselm Charles Fitzwilliam, Alfred Wulfric Leyson Pius, Sixtus Dominic Boniface Christopher (Wikipedia)

Men of the people...
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Boris Johnson's children's names: Lara Lettice, Milo Arthur, Cassia Peaches and Theodore Apollo (source: Boris Johnson and wife Marina Wheeler to get divorced)

Jacob Rees-Mogg's children's names: Peter Theodore Alphege, Mary Anne Charlotte Emma, Thomas Wentworth Somerset Dunstan, Anselm Charles Fitzwilliam, Alfred Wulfric Leyson Pius, Sixtus Dominic Boniface Christopher (Wikipedia)

Men of the people...
Is JRM's sixth child's name really spelled "Sixtus"? If so, it's misspelled. And don't tell me they weren't going for a Latin name when one of the poor kid's other names is Boniface...!
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Is JRM's sixth child's name really spelled "Sixtus"? If so, it's misspelled.
If so, then several popes' names were also misspelled.
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Looks as if it really is Sixtus.

Has Jacob Rees-Mogg got his son’s name wrong?
It's almost like Roman Catholics like to play with puns! What would St Peter say?

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Unlike Jamie Oliver, for example, who called one of his daughters "Petal Blossom Rainbow" and his son "Buddy Bear Maurice".

Just out of interest, what names should Boris Johnson and JRM used for their children?

Dwayne? Kevin, Sven?
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Is JRM's sixth child's name really spelled "Sixtus"? If so, it's misspelled. And don't tell me they weren't going for a Latin name when one of the poor kid's other names is Boniface...!
Looks as if it really is Sixtus.

Has Jacob Rees-Mogg got his son’s name wrong?
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"However, it should not be confused with the Latin name Sextus, meaning sixth. The name was nonetheless taken by the sixth pope after St Peter took the name Sixtus, leading some to believe there is a link with the number."
Looks as if they had been going for papal names, as there were apparently nine popes called Boniface.

The only normal set of names in the bunch is Rees-Mogg's daughter. His sister is called Annunziata (or Ann for short... I just made that up).

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Unlike Jamie Oliver, for example, who called one of his daughters "Petal Blossom Rainbow" and his son "Buddy Bear Maurice".

Just out of interest, what names should Boris Johnson and JRM used for their children?

Dwayne? Kevin, Sven?
Kevin Johnson, Kevin Rees-Mogg... sounds OK to me. As for Jamie Oliver's kids' names, they should sue!
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Boris Johnson's children's names:
Don't you mean Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson? Let's be having it right!
When I was a kid, every time a news reader refered to Tony Benn, my dad would say..."Don't they mean Sir Anthony Wedgewood Benn?" He always viewed as something duplicitous about the man.

I'm loving how certain sections of the media are stating that the public no longer associate a person's personal life with their public life. Bollox!!! Shagger Johnson has been dipping his quill again after fathering a child by another woman during his marriage. Wonderful quote from Peter Bleksley on GMB this morning...

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Looks as if they had been going for papal names, as there were apparently nine popes called Boniface.
Anselm of Canterbury is in the mix too.
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Is JRM's sixth child's name really spelled "Sixtus"? If so, it's misspelled. And don't tell me they weren't going for a Latin name when one of the poor kid's other names is Boniface...!
Despite its Latin "looks" Sixtus seems to be Greek.
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Despite its Latin "looks" Sixtus seems to be Greek.
And means "polished" rather than "sixth." Either way... poor little bugger. It's Mrs Rees-Mogg I feel for. Unless she loves these names too!


Who are these women willing to get into BJ's buffoon-trews???? Yuckadoodle. I'm surprised his missus hasn't changed the locks before now.
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I'm surprised his missus hasn't changed the locks before now.
Many marriages can survive infidelity, but she soldiered on knowing that he'd fathered a child by another woman during their marriage. No effin way could I do that, but each to their own.
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Many marriages can survive infidelity, but she soldiered on knowing that he'd fathered a child by another woman during their marriage. No effin way could I do that, but each to their own.
Exactly. Me either. He must be mightily charming. Ack...
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Who wouldn't want to be married to the next Prime Minister?
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