The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[John William]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	Yesterday, Rees-Mogg was on 'The Jeremy Vine Show' on Channel 5. Watching him for an extended period of time, and listening to his views on a number of matters, has only reinforced my opinion that he lives in a parallel universe and has zero integrity or consistency. This is just a taster... How does this work?

As far as I'm concerned JRM is not of this era and for that matter, not of

this century. It's as if he was woken from a cryrogenic sleep from a sarcophagus that was dug up from the inner sanctum of the Tories 1922 Committee headquarters.

[John William]

At last conclusive proof that Jacob Rees-Mogg has lived before, back in London during
the Swinging Sixties - Yes Adam Adamant lives and returns again for Brexit !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR-WJf9k1QE

[bowlie]

	Quote:
	But Mark Swan, group director of safety and airspace regulation at the CAA, said: "It is misleading for Sky News to say that 35,000 pilots would need to renew their pilot's licence in a 'no-deal' Brexit scenario. Both commercial and private UK pilot licences would remain valid for use on UK-registered aircraft as the United Kingdom is a signatory to the International Civil Aviation Organisation Chicago Convention. "Our licences are internationally recognised - including by the European Aviation Safety Agency - both now and after 29 March 2019. "The CAA will continue to issue and reissue pilots' licences when they are lost, damaged, when details need to be changed or pilots' privileges updated as we do now. Over time, this would include removing references to EASA - a purely cosmetic change. There will be no requirement for licences to be re-issued for any other reason meaning that there will be no change to this process.

. Voilà

	Quote:	Blueangel
	Yesterday, Rees-Mogg was on 'The Jeremy Vine Show' on Channel 5. Watching him for an extended period of time, and listening to his views on a number of matters, has only reinforced my opinion that he lives in a parallel universe and has zero integrity or consistency.

He's an over-privileged dinosaur in a Savile Row suit. Utterly horrifying. His kids are being raised by the same nanny who raised him. She's apparently worked for the family for 50 years.

[dandi]

	Quote:	John William
	At last conclusive proof that Jacob Rees-Mogg has lived before, back in London during the Swinging Sixties - Yes Adam Adamant lives and returns again for Brexit !! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR-WJf9k1QE

Well, what do you know, following today's new EU Parliament ruling, this video will soon have to disappear from Youtube.... and then if Brexit happens then it can probably stay... How did JRM miss on that ?

[marton]

	Quote:	dandi
	Well, what do you know, following today's new EU Parliament ruling, this video will soon have to disappear from Youtube.... and then if Brexit happens then it can probably stay... How did JRM miss on that ?

But surely EU regulations are created by unelected bureaucrats forcing their will on weak countries, not developed through voting by elected MEPs in the EU Parliament

So all those who champion the democracy of the EU, do you feel you have exercised your voice today with the motion to start the Article 7 process against Hungary?

[John William]

Well no doubt regular forum members will be keen to see the finer details of Jacob Rees-Moggs
and Boris Johnson's Clean Break proposals and how they stand up against Theresa May's
Chequers plan. I'm sure Nigel's has given his seal of approval already.

	Quote:	Loz1983
	So all those who champion the democracy of the EU, do you feel you have exercised your voice today with the motion to start the Article 7 process against Hungary?

Not sure I get your point. There was a vote on this that got overwhelming backing; 448 YES to 197 NO.

[dandi]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	So all those who champion the democracy of the EU, do you feel you have exercised your voice today with the motion to start the Article 7 process against Hungary?

Actually, yes? Do you?

IMHO some of the other Eastern E countries should get the same treatment as well - and soon. At least get their EU funding cut severely as long as their political and judicial systems are not what should be

[greenmount]

	Quote:	dandi
	Actually, yes? Do you? IMHO some of the other Eastern E countries should get the same treatment as well - and soon. At least get their EU funding cut severely as long as their political and judicial systems are not what should be

I think it will affect normal people instead of bringing about the much needed changes. The political class we'll have less power when people will have better living standards. Less prone to be manipulated and vote for all sort of jerks. Abstract concepts can't appeal to people who struggle with low wages or pensions, lack of adequate health care or insufficient resources for education. Inequalities between urban and rural. There should be a bigger pressure on these politicians to solve real needs, no-one is impressed by corruption witch hunts anymore.

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:
	He's an over-privileged dinosaur in a Savile Row suit. Utterly horrifying. His kids are being raised by the same nanny who raised him. She's apparently worked for the family for 50 years.

Is there anything wrong with retaining staff? The first nanny my brother employed for his youngest over 25 years ago still works for them full time now as house keeper.

[John William]

H'm I wonder how many old Etonian's are posters on the forum ?

	Quote:	John William
	H'm I wonder how many old Etonian's are posters on the forum ?

None of them because they have someone on the staff to take care of all that kind of caper.

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	John William
	H'm I wonder how many old Etonian's are posters on the forum ?

Somewhat amused by this, my brother went to Westminster & got a scholarship to Cambridge so reasonably bright. He had 4 children. Whats the cost of that in terms of day care in CH? Substantially more than employing someone full time, remember many salaries in CH are 5k a month roughly the cost of 2 children in child care. London salaries are lower than that. If your successful in your field that won't be out of reach to many, some of whom will lease a Ferrari instead.

	Quote:	John William
	H'm I wonder how many old Etonian's are posters on the forum ?

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Somewhat amused by this

Me too. Imagine putting an apostrophe in "Etononians"; he's definitely not received the benefit of a classical education, what?

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	my brother went to Westminster & got a scholarship to Cambridge so reasonably bright.

This might be my favourite humblebrag of all time.

[MusicChick]

	Quote:
	Me too. Imagine putting an apostrophe in "Etononians"; he's definitely not received the benefit of a classical education, what? This might be my favourite humblebrag of all time.

Just thanking you for the humblebrag, made me chuckle.

Well, it's not bad to be proud of family achievements.

I think I'd only oppose the 'reasonably', my favorite subjective adjective.

	Quote:
	The Electoral Commission has certainly proven fraud,. https://www.theguardian.com/politics...mark-gettleson As for outside interference- that is perhaps not proven yet- but quite clear too. What is proven, is that the vast majority of people, including the Government, had no idea of what the consequences and implications were. Once they are clear, or as clear as possible - democracy absolutely requires that people are given a vote on the final deal, or no deal. That is why when you decide to buy a house, you are able to pull out if and when you have done a survey and realise there are massive issues with it you were not aware of when you initially visited it.

	Quote:	Reb77Br
	Vote Leave: Brexit campaign 'broke electoral law' in referendum "Brexit campaign group Vote Leave has been fined £61,000 and referred to the police after an Electoral Commission probe said it broke electoral law."

	Quote:	marton
	Vote Leave has been fined £61,000 and reported to the police by the Electoral Commission, after the watchdog found “significant evidence” of coordination with another campaign group, BeLeave. The watchdog said Vote Leave’s fines were punitive because it said the group had refused to co-operate fully with its investigation and declined to be interviewed. Source Vote Leave is an organisation that successfully campaigned for a Leave vote in the United Kingdom European Union membership referendum. Founders: Dominic Cummings, Matthew Elliott Key people: Gisela Stuart, Matthew Elliott, Dominic Cummings, Michael Gove, Boris Johnson Farage was not involved with this group.

Awkward

Electoral Commission 'misinterpreted' Vote Leave expenses, court rules

	Quote:	dandi
	Actually, yes? Do you? IMHO some of the other Eastern E countries should get the same treatment as well - and soon. At least get their EU funding cut severely as long as their political and judicial systems are not what should be

What about the adoption of Article 13 of the EU Copyright Directive? EF would become a far more boring place under those conditions.

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Awkward Electoral Commission 'misinterpreted' Vote Leave expenses, court rules

Should get that commission to investigate the rest of the bullshit surrounding the referendum. Sounds like they know what they're doing.

That would get a few shaking in their shoes, wouldn't it..?

	Quote:	Loz1983
	What about the adoption of Article 13 of the EU Copyright Directive? EF would become a far more boring place under those conditions.

You say that but I think it would prompt a sigh of relief from those on the forum with a tendency to rely on fantasy and imagination, absolved from having to back up their tedious ramblings with something concrete.