The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[baboon]

	Quote:	McTAVGE

Sadly a made-up image. But the principle is good!

[McTAVGE]

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	Sadly, hilarious as it is, and maybe even an element of truth to it, Snopes debunked it as fake...

One might always wonder...

[McTAVGE]

	Quote:	baboon
	Sadly a made-up image. But the principle is good!

It circulates on German social media under "Britischer Humor", so, yes, it is taken as such...but an underlying element of truth? tbd!

[dandi]

	Quote:	McTAVGE
	It circulates on German social media under "Britischer Humor", so, yes, it is taken as such...but an underlying element of truth? tbd!

There's nothing to be discussed really - if anyone were to suggest a correlation between BSE incidence and pro-brexit vote (which is what this image fakes), anything that they would find would be confounded by the general increase of conservative votes around the countryside, which is where cows happen to be located too. This is a textbook case of "correlation does not imply causation"...

Even if I am a remainer I find this image unjustifiably insulting to the brexiteers.

	Quote:	dandi
	Even if I am a remainer I find this image unjustifiably insulting to the brexiteers.

It made this Brexiter chuckle.

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	dandi
	Even if I am a remainer I find this image unjustifiably insulting to the brexiteers.

BREXITers are thick skinned & know full well the real danger to the UK is Corbyn not BREXIT.

[McTAVGE]

	Quote:	dandi
	There's nothing to be discussed really - if anyone were to suggest a correlation between BSE incidence and pro-brexit vote (which is what this image fakes), anything that they would find would be confounded by the general increase of conservative votes around the countryside, which is where cows happen to be located too. This is a textbook case of "correlation does not imply causation"... Even if I am a remainer I find this image unjustifiably insulting to the brexiteers.

You have not met my in-laws!

[McTAVGE]

	Quote:	dandi
	There's nothing to be discussed really - if anyone were to suggest a correlation between BSE incidence and pro-brexit vote (which is what this image fakes), anything that they would find would be confounded by the general increase of conservative votes around the countryside, which is where cows happen to be located too. This is a textbook case of "correlation does not imply causation"... Even if I am a remainer I find this image unjustifiably insulting to the brexiteers.

Feck, Dandi, you have as much laughter and humour left in you as Teresa May this afternoon! It's Friday, take a wee drab of Whisky, or is it G&T in your parts?

[lewton]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Nah, it's just the EU being the EU. Anyone with half a brain can see that Theresa May has moved as far as is possible for her, further in fact as her proposal will never get through Parlament. If the EU want a deal they need to take the threat of no deal seriously. If they don't then no deal is what will happen.

Ι thought we need you more than you need us.

[John William]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	BREXITers are thick skinned & know full well the real danger to the UK is Corbyn not BREXIT.

Not only that but they forever have their heads stuck in the sand and therefore display all the
Brexiteer traits of not knowing where they're really going and forever being incapable of engaging
in any meaningful debate with a remainer.

[greenmount]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	I think I understand. I love London, but have never wanted to live there. OH loves London and enjoyed his few years living there, but he understands that it would be too claustrophobic for me. It would take a huge increase in wage and guaranteed 10yr contract to tempt him away from where he is now, simply because he's happy with his work/home balance, and you can't buy that.

I am a little claustrophobic too, but it would be nice to live there as an expat for a year or more though, to visit all the museums, theatres, opera houses, soak up the culture and the history of the place. It would be great. I'd be able to live there for the experience, but not to emigrate in the true sense of the word. It's a very complicated time, starting with the work and residence permits, your status as an immigrant from EU there, going to the occasional hostility you'd have to put up with here and there (c'mon, what people complain about in CH is nothing compared to there) All these discussions in the last years, the Brexit thing etc etc must have taken its toll on common folks.....nah, you can't fight the Daily Mail, not really. I've understood that some time ago. But it is not just that, tbh (if considering a long term) becoming a citizen of the place is a serious business and I'm not sure I'd ever want to do that. There was a time when we might have considered moving there, not now, not even for much more money than what we earn here. But as I said, for the experience - on a short term expat contract, or as a tourist - any time.

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	BREXITers are thick skinned & know full well the real danger to the UK is Corbyn not BREXIT.

Corbyn wouldn't last long as PM but I doubt he'd be elected anyway (does anyone seriously believe he would? He's just good at unnerving the Tories). Brexit, however, is permanent and drastic and is a far bigger and longer threat the UK economy.

Not sure thick "skinned" is the right body part you're referring to.

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	BREXITers are thick skinned & know full well the real danger to the UK is Corbyn not BREXIT.

I agree with that until the skinned bit.

Why do you make this so easy FMF?

HA HA HA HA HA

McDonnell: new Brexit referendum should not include remain option

	Quote:	Loz1983
	HA HA HA HA HA McDonnell: new Brexit referendum should not include remain option

Shad-dow. Therefore just words.

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	HA HA HA HA HA McDonnell: new Brexit referendum should not include remain option

The vote is done, it's if people want any deal on offer (if any) or a hard BREXIT is the only question left to answer.
The referendum was clearly a once in a generation vote, everybody knew that.

[BaselLife]

If there is a second vote then it has to contain the option to stay in the EU. There has to be a possibility to stop the Brexit disaster before any more damage is done. It has been depressing to see Labour not act as a real opposition to Brexit and simply rubber stamp the idiot decisions of the Government. Last week just showed how out of step May is with reality. If after 2 years you cannot come up with anything better than something that would never be accepted why did you bother. There was no bullying from the EU. You earn respect and the UK last all respect after the referendum.

Let's hope that Brexit never occurs as it will be much harder to rejoin

	Quote:	Loz1983
	HA HA HA HA HA McDonnell: new Brexit referendum should not include remain option

Makes sense. The Brexit debacle has been sewn up as a non-returnable event. People should be allowed to decide how it's executed although god only knows what kind of risk that could be. Then again, it can't be any worse than the current dog's dinner being offered up by those who currently show that they aren't able to negotiate their way out of a wet paper bag.

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	The vote is done, it's if people want any deal on offer (if any) or a hard BREXIT is the only question left to answer. The referendum was clearly a once in a generation vote, everybody knew that.

Yes, that would have been the case if votes had not been won on massive lies and fraud- and total lack of information re consequences.

Just like any contract ... made nul and void if the salesman/company clearly lied, be it a second-hand car salesman, builder, stairlift fitter or pension/insurance advisor. Why should Ministers be exempt to basic sales or business techniques and Law?

[fatmanfilms]

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	Yes, that would have been the case if votes had not been won on massive lies and fraud- and total lack of information re consequences. Just like any contract ... made nul and void if the salesman/company clearly lied, be it a second-hand car salesman, builder, stairlift fitter or pension/insurance advisor. Why should Ministers be exempt to basic sales or business techniques and Law?

Project fear also lied, the Chancellor claimed the UK would immediately after a leave vote be plunged into recession & an emergency budget would be needed. Neither happened it was a total lie.

There was no contract with anybody, nobody agreed to pay anything which is a requirement of a contract as you should know. It was just a vote where people expressed their own opinions many of which were wrong which is totally normal. The UK will thrive over the next 50 years being independent, the EU probably won't survive that long as it will be totally bankrupt.