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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Old 25.09.2018, 11:28
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Just heard on the BBC news that the British Cabinet has decided that after Brexit EU (etc) nationals will not be given priority over other nationals. Same rules to apply to everybody.

Given reciprocity it looks likely that British nationals coming to Switzerland will be grouped with all other third country nationals.

Doubt it will affect Brits with valid permits but Brits coming after Brexit will now have to join the queue for a the limited number of 3rd country permits on offer.

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Old 25.09.2018, 11:57
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Just heard on the BBC news that the British Cabinet has decided that after Brexit EU (etc) nationals will not be given priority over other nationals. Same rules to apply to everybody.

Given reciprocity it looks likely that British nationals coming to Switzerland will be grouped with all other third country nationals.

Doubt it will affect Brits with valid permits but Brits coming after Brexit will now have to join the queue for a the limited number of 3rd country permits on offer.
The bilateral agreements between UK and Switzerland are somewhat different than the EU rules in places. So it is believed that after Brexit Brits and Swiss already in country will have some protection.
It is also claimed the Swiss and British Govts. are discussing post Brexit changes.
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Old 25.09.2018, 12:56
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The bilateral agreements between UK and Switzerland are somewhat different than the EU rules in places. So it is believed that after Brexit Brits and Swiss already in country will have some protection.
It is also claimed the Swiss and British Govts. are discussing post Brexit changes.
I fully expect that Switzerland's relationship with the UK will be driven by our relationship with the EU. I doubt very much it will differ much from the EU approach in the end, whatever that may be.
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Old 25.09.2018, 14:03
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I fully expect that Switzerland's relationship with the UK will be driven by our relationship with the EU. I doubt very much it will differ much from the EU approach in the end, whatever that may be.
Take a look at this link.

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Old 25.09.2018, 14:14
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I see this as Labour tentatively moving forward, as in the first to say something concrete about a new vote, albeit a limited one. More will be said later, no doubt..

This is how Brexit will be delivered, with something that actually isn't Brexit
Crikey, that was quick.
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Old 25.09.2018, 14:19
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Crikey, that was quick.
This is going to get messy. Kier Starmer playing politics within his own party, Momentum will have the pitchforks out before nightfall.
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Old 25.09.2018, 14:22
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This is going to get messy. Kier Starmer playing politics within his own party, Momentum will have the pitchforks out before nightfall.
Nope. Momentum are mainly Remain.
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Old 25.09.2018, 14:23
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Nope. Momentum are mainly Remain.
Jezza or Remain, you can't have both.
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Old 25.09.2018, 14:24
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Jezza or Remain, you can't have both.
Jezza will follow Momentum in that case.
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Old 25.09.2018, 14:25
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Jezza or Remain, you can't have both.
You must have seen the "Love Corbyn, Hate Brexit" T-Shirts doing the rounds Loz.
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Old 25.09.2018, 15:01
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You must have seen the "Love Corbyn, Hate Brexit" T-Shirts doing the rounds Loz.
He only want's BREXIT so he can nationalise everything in sight without EU interference.
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Old 25.09.2018, 15:10
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He only want's BREXIT so he can nationalise everything in sight without EU interference.
So you think he's going to win the next General Election, then?

That's a bit optimistic.
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Old 25.09.2018, 15:15
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You must have seen the "Love Corbyn, Hate Brexit" T-Shirts doing the rounds Loz.
Yes, and it's bemusing to be honest, because if we know anything about Jeremy Corbyn it's that he hates the EU. He voted No in 1975, voted against Maastricht and Lisbon. He voted for an EU referendum in 2011 (which was defeated) and then infuriated the Leave campaign in 2016 by his inaction to their cause.
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Old 25.09.2018, 15:17
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So you think he's going to win the next General Election, then?

That's a bit optimistic.
No I don't, the electorate are not that stupid.
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Old 25.09.2018, 15:27
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No I don't, the electorate are not that stupid.
So how do you think he's going to "nationalise everything in sight"?
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Old 25.09.2018, 15:29
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Yes, and it's bemusing to be honest, because if we know anything about Jeremy Corbyn it's that he hates the EU. He voted No in 1975, voted against Maastricht and Lisbon. He voted for an EU referendum in 2011 (which was defeated) and then infuriated the Leave campaign in 2016 by his inaction to their cause.
It's one of the few positive things about him.

I respect him for it.

I just doubt that he'll be any more succesful in getting his way with the EU than May was.
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Old 25.09.2018, 15:32
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So how do you think he's going to "nationalise everything in sight"?

If you read what I wrote perhaps you would be less confused. "He only want's" I don't think he will as he won't get elected.

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He only want's BREXIT so he can nationalise everything in sight without EU interference.
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Old 25.09.2018, 15:36
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If you read what I wrote perhaps you would be less confused. "He only want's" I don't think he will as he won't get elected.

He only want's BREXIT so he can nationalise everything in sight without EU interference.
Just confused why you were bringing up something that was, for all intents and purposes, irrelevant and speculative.

Why didn't you write "want's" (maybe sans apostrophe ) the first time around instead of your more resolute "can".

Then again, this is the Brexit thread where made up fluff is passed off as hard fact.
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Old 25.09.2018, 15:41
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Just confused why you were bringing up something that was, for all intents and purposes, irrelevant and speculative.

Then again, this is the Brexit thread where made up fluff is passed off as hard fact.
It was the apostrophe that made that hard to read, I think.
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He only want's BREXIT so he can nationalise everything in sight without EU interference.
Yes, just as well the German Government doesn't own and operate Deutsche Bahn or the French Government doesn't run SNCF. I hate how the EU stopped that happening.

Anyway, since oil prices are rocketing, you English can continue robbing the Scottish natural resources to pay for it. You're "welcome".
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