The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[marton]

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	Big business is almost universally pro-EU.

Now the IMF and the Bank of England have publically identified the Brexit risks so all the major economists are also almost universally pro-EU.

[cyrus]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	I wouldn't want to be ruled by the house of lords, the royal family, even the house of commons in it's current form. But getting rid of Europe is a start. It's simple. The Guardian think that climate change is beyond question and that anyone who doesn't subscribe to it must be a bit stupid. Just google climate change on their website and read some of the opinion pieces. The article I linked was their not-so-very suitable way of saying "look at the leave voters, they don't believe in climate change so are too witless to have an opinion on Brexit". Why else would they publish such an article? The two have nothing whatsoever to do with each other. It's great really, the socially minded Grauniad printing this, Geldof sticking up the Vs at British fisherman, just proving the gulf between "the progressive left" and the working classes is getting wider.

Climate change is beyond question, get with the program, your argument now is that it's not caused by us. In another twenty years, your argument will be, well it was, but there's nothing to be done now.

[Mikers]

	Quote:	marton
	Now the IMF and the Bank of England have publically identified the Brexit risks so all the major economists are also almost universally pro-EU.

I wonder if there's a chart anywhere relating pro eu economists with eu funding amounts. It'd be fascinating to see.

	Quote:	cyrus
	Climate change is beyond question, get with the program, your argument now is that it's not caused by us. In another twenty years, your argument will be, well it was, but there's nothing to be done now.

Where did I say this?

In other news, Tim Peake came back from space today so he could vote for Brexit

[Deep Purple]

If the UK leaves Europe, where do we all go?

[Medea Fleecestealer]

	Quote:	Deep Purple
	If the UK leaves Europe, where do we all go?

Um, the rest of the world? Or do you mean "us" personally as people living outside of the UK?

[greenmount]

	Quote:	marton
	"The truth is Farage is an extremely reliable and honest character" Then he will never be a successful politician

He already is...:ROFL:
It seems he has his loyal and growing audience...

[Deep Purple]

	Quote:	Medea Fleecestealer
	Um, the rest of the world? Or do you mean "us" personally as people living outside of the UK?

The whole of the UK. Will it be moved between Australia and New Zealand for instance?

[Medea Fleecestealer]

Why would we move? With globalisation and the internet we can do everything from our living rooms.

[curley]

	Quote:	Deep Purple
	If the UK leaves Europe, where do we all go?

you're welcome to stay right here


edit: Ahhh, I see, the whole island? Well there is still a lot of space in the sea .... you can chose one with better climate this time.

[Reb77Br]

Brexiters are apparently much more cynical and less trusting than Remain supporters.
https://www.facebook.com/scientistsf...type=3&theater

How to convince people who effectively trust no-one? On the other hand, Boris Johnson is trusted by twice as many voters as David Cameron to tell truth about Europe. Confusing!

[Blueangel]

Fascinating interview with Gove on The Andrew Marr Show, and it's a relief to hear him make the differentiation between the campaign he is a part of and Farage's campaign.

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	When I saw that poster I shuddered. I thought it was the wrong thing to do.

http://www.itv.com/news/2016-06-19/g...-point-poster/

[Mikers]

And just when they have a bit of infighting Corbyn puts leave back 10'yards by declaring while in the eu there will never be any control on immigration and suggests just allocating more funds to handle it.

So one side is too far right and one if too far left for what the majority of voters want. So it'll be close next week, though in the end I still think remain will win, just.

Indeed, good to hear him say he shuddered when he saw the new UKIP posters on immigration and said it sent all the wrong messages (he failed short of mentioning 1930s German fascist propaganda but it was clear enough).

How Farage dares complain about the Fisheries commission, when he picked up his fat cheque as MEP and attended ONE out of 42 of the meetings he should have attended to fight for UK fishermen, is beyond belief.

As we are being bombarded by **** from both sides- what a refreshing and interesting change to get facts from on of the most experience EU Law experts in the land. Extremely convincing and helpful to make an informed choice:

https://www.facebook.com/Universityo...3361974024537/

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	Mikers
	And just when they have a bit of infighting Corbyn puts leave back 10'yards by declaring while in the eu there will never be any control on immigration and suggests just allocating more funds to handle it.

That was a massive own goal by Corbyn. I don't like the man. For some strange reason, everytime I see him interviewed, I just imagine Ben Elton as Mr. Kendall Mintcake in this episode of The Young Ones.

How does this work?

[amogles]

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	Indeed, good to hear him say he shuddered when he saw the new UKIP posters on immigration and said it sent all the wrong messages (he failed short of mentioning 1930s German fascist propaganda but it was clear enough). .

Wern't the 1930s German fascists in favour of a united and centralized and socialist Europe? Not sure I'd be stirring that pot if I was Corbyn right now.

I believe the way some want to achieve this makes a big difference, no???

	Quote:	amogles
	Wern't the 1930s German fascists in favour of a united and centralized and socialist Europe? Not sure I'd be stirring that pot if I was Corbyn right now.

Not just the German fascists: Oswald Moseley was a great proponent of "Europe a Nation", too.

A happy club of European brothers, united to keep the darkies out, is and always was central to fascist ideology.