The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[Tom1234]

	Quote:	bowlie
	No in 180 days the third country rules will apply to UK passport holders.

Well obviously. I was going to add that obviously new rules would need to be drawn up for this but I thought that was so obvious, I didn't write it.

[Odile]

	Quote:	grumpygrapefruit
	Nobody knows.

Must be incredibly worrying for anyone importing from UK. Really hope things turn out OK for you and others in same position. x

[grumpygrapefruit]

	Quote:	Odile
	Must be incredibly worrying for anyone importing from UK. Really hope things turn out OK for you and others in same position. x

Re importing from the UK.... no one has any clue what might happen in just a few months. HM Customs, Swiss Customs and our import agents and freight companies. No on has any clue how we will be able to import. Of course, there will be a way, but at least a little clue as to how it might happen will help companies plan a little. And plan what the extra costs might be.

I actually believe now that come March, the EU will agree to a an extension - one or two years - of trade as it is now while they find some agreement with the UK. There is no way customs posts and the relevant admin can be sorted in such a short time.

[Medea Fleecestealer]

Uh? What's this thread doing in the Permits section of the forum? Should be in International Affairs or maybe Daily Life.

[John William]

Seems a shame that with Britain leaving the EU on the 29th March, which is less than 6 months away now.
The Brexit thread disappears in Daily Life.
I know it's a controversial subject but couldn't it continue with the - feel free to post but be aware
it continues with the controversial moniker on it ?

[John William]

Oh I see it moved house to Permits/visas/government - although you would have thought you could
have left a 'forwarding address' in Daily Life.

[Dougal's Breakfast]

You never accidentally put a cup in the plate cupboard?

	Quote:	Dougal's Breakfast
	You never accidentally put a cup in the plate cupboard?

You don't leave a note when you put it back?

[John William]

	Quote:	bowlie
	Have the Brits offered anything other than Chequers? Which both the Conservatives and the contend is unworkable

Well a Full English Hard Brexit is still on the menu for 29th March if all else fails.

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	Odile
	Must be incredibly worrying for anyone importing from UK. Really hope things turn out OK for you and others in same position. x

Why as the cost has fallen over 20% since the vote, so even with paying a tariff it will be cheaper than before the Brexit vote. Clearly you did not teach maths. You need to start crying for people selling to the UK as shelf prices can't be raised more than a couple of percent inspire of tariffs & lower value currency.

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	grumpygrapefruit
	I actually believe now that come March, the EU will agree to a an extension - one or two years - of trade as it is now while they find some agreement with the UK. There is no way customs posts and the relevant admin can be sorted in such a short time.

Hopefully the Brits play hardball like the EU & say tough luck, you had a chance of a deal & blew it.

[Jim2007]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Why as the cost has fallen over 20% since the vote, so even with paying a tariff it will be cheaper than before the Brexit vote. Clearly you did not teach maths. You need to start crying for people selling to the UK as shelf prices can't be raised more than a couple of percent inspire of tariffs & lower value currency.

Once again you show your lack of understanding. Business will only be will to hold off on passing on tariffs for a short period at best. But it if keeps up the illusion for you, off you go.

[grumpygrapefruit]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Why as the cost has fallen over 20% since the vote, so even with paying a tariff it will be cheaper than before the Brexit vote. Clearly you did not teach maths.

1.43 down to 1.28 today is more like 10%. The tariffs are one cost, the admin from import agents when you're importing many items with different tariff codes can be as much again. But the main problem for me as a business importing form the UK is just the uncertainty of how we might do it as well as what it might cost.

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	You need to start crying for people selling to the UK as shelf prices can't be raised more than a couple of percent inspire of tariffs & lower value currency.

Or crying for the companies in the UK who need to import goods on a daily basis and whose costs are going up 10%. As you say, they will find it hard to pass those costs on to the consumer but in the end will have to. So start crying for the UK consumer who's cost of living will go up.

[baboon]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Hopefully the Brits play hardball like the EU & say tough luck, you had a chance of a deal & blew it.

As ever, who will that hit most?

UK - exports to the EU account for ~13% of the total UK economy
EU - exports to the UK account for ~3% of the total EU economy

You keep going on about maths. So you work out the risks impact.

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	Jim2007
	Once again you show your lack of understanding. Business will only be will to hold off on passing on tariffs for a short period at best. But it if keeps up the illusion for you, off you go.

You fail to understand that business's already charge the maximum the can in any marketplace. The cost of providing their product / service has nothing to do with the cost to them, not every company gets it, just the ones that stand the test of time.

Amazon the worlds most successful retailer spent many years supplying goods at a loss, why you may ask? To bankrupt their competitors & create market share which they have done very successfully.

	Quote:	baboon
	As ever, who will that hit most? UK - exports to the EU account for ~13% of the total UK economy EU - exports to the UK account for ~3% of the total EU economy You keep going on about maths. So you work out the risks impact.

Clearly your expecting the richer countries to pay the smaller countries loss's & pension deficits. A really good reason to leave.

[Sandgrounder]

It's all gone a bit "Jackanory" on here, hasn't it..?

	Quote:	baboon
	As ever, who will that hit most? UK - exports to the EU account for ~13% of the total UK economy EU - exports to the UK account for ~3% of the total EU economy You keep going on about maths. So you work out the risks impact.

This is a bit of a misnomer though. As much as many Europhiles would like to believe, the EU isn't yet a single country. So whilst no deal may have a very limited effect on say Italy, for Ireland it would be catastrophic. If the EU is serious about protecting all it's members, then this is something they have to take very seriously.

[baboon]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	This is a bit of a misnomer though. As much as many Europhiles would like to believe, the EU isn't yet a single country. So whilst no deal may have a very limited effect on say Italy, for Ireland it would be catastrophic. If the EU is serious about protecting all it's members, then this is something they have to take very seriously.

Another misnomer actually. Firstly, the UK exports far more to Ireland than it imports (trade balance is GB£ 12 billion in the UKs favour. Second, the bulk of Ireland's exports to the UK are food (roughly half), something the UK simply can't live without. Even allowing for the high relevance of UK exports to the Irish economy, the relative invulnerability of the food portion should heavily mitigate that.

Northern Ireland could be the most heavily shafted by a no deal Brexit. But that's other people so I guess you don't care about them.

[Odile]

Arlene, Arlene, Aaarleeeene

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...land?CMP=fb_gu

the Irish Border will be the final demise of Brexit- as there is NO solution, at all. The last straw that will break the back of this very sick camel.

In the meantime, I just love Femi, yes, it is EU Law, that the UK CHOSE not to apply:

https://www.facebook.com/OFOCBrexit/...1062003247251/

[McTAVGE]

https://www.facebook.com/bbcthree/vi...8932530015034/


Proper bendy British bananas, what's not to like?!!