The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH - Page 685

#**13681** 03.10.2018, 10:58

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	'low-skill' migrants to the UK which she defined as earning less than £50k per year.

£30k, isn't it?

st2lemans · #**13682** 03.10.2018, 11:02

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	Not allowed now- was the norm in the late 60s and 80s - NO exaggeration at all.

Doctors must have crap back then.

Tom

marton · #**13683** 03.10.2018, 11:03

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	£30k, isn't it?

"Let them eat cake"!

#**13684** 03.10.2018, 11:09

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	"Let them eat cake"!

Merely seeking clarification.

#**13685** 03.10.2018, 12:09

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	This is racism.

Treating all migrants the same without giving preferential treatment to the EU citizens is now racist

#**13686** 03.10.2018, 13:03

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	Doctors must have crap back then. Tom

Could you possibly rephrase that in English?

In the meantime:

Statement from Mrs May as reported by Frank Bough.

We will prevent unskilled workers coming from the EU and will fill the gap by training British Workers

So, we're going to 'train' British Workers to have 'No Skills'?

Interesting Concept!

And there I was thinking the British workers did not want those jobs?

DB - it is 50.000 for non EU - and now EU will be treated the same as non EU. Klar?

#**13687** 03.10.2018, 14:17

Hell of a risk if this is "self-depreciating humour". OMFG - had to watch through my fingers...

#**13688** 03.10.2018, 14:22

O ...... M ...... G

#**13689** 03.10.2018, 14:25

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	DB - it is 50.000 for non EU - and now EU will be treated the same as non EU. Klar?

As I understand it, the threshold for "unskilled" labour is 30k, hence my request for clarification.

So, no. Still not "klar".

#**13690** 03.10.2018, 14:29

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	DB - it is 50.000 for non EU - and now EU will be treated the same as non EU. Klar?

Actually it is GB£ 30K. See here. £20K for under-25s. The limits are to be reviewed shortly. Doctors and nurses are explicitly not included in the quota at all.

#**13691** 03.10.2018, 14:29

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	As I understand it, the threshold for "unskilled" labour is 30k, hence my request for clarification. So, no. Still not "klar".

From my earlier post:

'Theresa May has announced today at Tory Conference that after Brexit we will end 'low-skill' migrants to the UK which she defined as earning less than £50k per year.'

so the 30.000 for low skill becomes somewhat irrelevant- was my point. Hope this helps.

The rest of the post illustrated that many skilled workers, are way below that threshold.

st2lemans · #**13692** 03.10.2018, 14:33

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	Could you possibly rephrase that in English?

Anybody who works 20+ hours/day will invariably be crap at their job.

Tom

#**13693** 03.10.2018, 14:44

you'd think so - you obviously don't know my OH though. Or his colleagues from those days- who were all brilliant doctors. It nearly killed him, literally, but he survived and went straight back to it ...

It has one advantage, if it does not break you- you learn very fast, become a very good diagnostician and get tons of experience in a third of the time. As said, some cannot take it- they die, commit suicide, become very ill themselves, or give up clinical work.

Chuff · #**13694** 03.10.2018, 15:22

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	From my earlier post: 'Theresa May has announced today at Tory Conference that after Brexit we will end 'low-skill' migrants to the UK which she defined as earning less than £50k per year.' so the 30.000 for low skill becomes somewhat irrelevant- was my point. Hope this helps. The rest of the post illustrated that many skilled workers, are way below that threshold.

Where are you getting the £50k figure from as a benchmark for unskilled labour, can you please quote the source?

Belgianmum · #**13695** 03.10.2018, 15:46

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	Where are you getting the £50k figure from as a benchmark for unskilled labour, can you please quote the source?

Mrs May said it at the Tory party conference apparently so it is obviously a proposal for the future and not the situation as it stands at the moment.

Chuff · #**13696** 03.10.2018, 15:58

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	Mrs May said it at the Tory party conference apparently* so it is obviously a proposal for the future and not the situation as it stands at the moment.*

I asked her to provide the source, which you haven't done either.

Google doesn't show me a quote from May saying £50k, which is why I am asking so that I can have confirmation. It's the kind of thing that newspapers would immediately publish in real-time as they cover these conferences.

#**13697** 03.10.2018, 16:01

Not exactly a gospel source, but it clearly wasn't just Odile who heard it...

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/...to_lowskilled/

#**13698** 03.10.2018, 16:08

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	Not exactly a gospel source, but it clearly wasn't just Odile who heard it... https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/...to_lowskilled/

Follow that through (and on to the twitter links therein) it is clear it is a misquote. It is currently £30K, the future amount is still open.

Belgianmum · #**13699** 03.10.2018, 16:13

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	I asked her to provide the source, which you haven't done either. Google doesn't show me a quote from May saying £50k, which is why I am asking so that I can have confirmation. It's the kind of thing that newspapers would immediately publish in real-time as they cover these conferences.

Some people obviously need things spelling out to them via the eye roll emoji, I’m sorry I forgot to put it in my previous post.

Chuff · #**13700** 03.10.2018, 16:43

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	Not exactly a gospel source, but it clearly wasn't just Odile who heard it... https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/...to_lowskilled/

Second visible post in that link: https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/...killed/e72xicz

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	Re reports looks like the journo got it wrong and we have a discussion proceeding from a hack up on twitter. Encourage everyone to do their own research and if possible post articles as opposed to tweets (wherein there tends to be some fact checking and the concern of retractions). Thread will be staying up however

Hmm... does it really seem logical that anything below £50k would be the low-skilled migrant threshold? My common sense filter says no, though happy to be proven wrong with a reputable link.