Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Off-Topic > Off-Topic > International affairs/politics  
View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
Voters: 212. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #13981  
Old 16.10.2018, 23:26
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Küsnacht, Switzerland
Posts: 4,064
Groaned at 87 Times in 81 Posts
Thanked 8,247 Times in 3,833 Posts
Blueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Do we have any bets on how many cabinet ministers will resign before midnight on Thursday? I'm going for 3
Reply With Quote
  #13982  
Old 17.10.2018, 08:01
Sandgrounder's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: ZH
Posts: 13,686
Groaned at 126 Times in 117 Posts
Thanked 25,158 Times in 9,684 Posts
Sandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
Do we have any bets on how many cabinet ministers will resign before midnight on Thursday? I'm going for 3

It'll probably be overshadowed by Boris doing something spectacularly headline grabbing in light of the news his popularity is plummeting among his core supporters.

My money is on a guest spot on this week's Strictly...
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank Sandgrounder for this useful post:
  #13983  
Old 17.10.2018, 09:01
BaselLife's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Basel
Posts: 1,030
Groaned at 31 Times in 20 Posts
Thanked 611 Times in 343 Posts
BaselLife is considered knowledgeableBaselLife is considered knowledgeableBaselLife is considered knowledgeable
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Hi,

any ministers who resign will not be missed as they will just be Brexit vandals like Fox and Raab. There should be a purge of the pro Brexiteers in the cabinet.
Reply With Quote
  #13984  
Old 17.10.2018, 09:24
Sandgrounder's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: ZH
Posts: 13,686
Groaned at 126 Times in 117 Posts
Thanked 25,158 Times in 9,684 Posts
Sandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
Hi,

any ministers who resign will not be missed as they will just be Brexit vandals like Fox and Raab. There should be a purge of the pro Brexiteers in the cabinet.
So you think it's a bad thing that there are members of government that have differing views on major policy? That's dangerous road to go down, don't you think?
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Sandgrounder for this useful post:
  #13985  
Old 17.10.2018, 09:27
StirB's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Zurich
Posts: 3,406
Groaned at 141 Times in 123 Posts
Thanked 5,923 Times in 2,546 Posts
StirB has a reputation beyond reputeStirB has a reputation beyond reputeStirB has a reputation beyond reputeStirB has a reputation beyond reputeStirB has a reputation beyond reputeStirB has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
So you think it's a bad thing that there are members of government that have differing views on major policy? That's dangerous road to go down, don't you think?
It's probably fine to have differing views, but not fine to sabotage the country by pulling in your own direction to try and force your will on the country.
Reply With Quote
The following 5 users would like to thank StirB for this useful post:
  #13986  
Old 17.10.2018, 10:12
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Zurich
Posts: 205
Groaned at 13 Times in 11 Posts
Thanked 254 Times in 136 Posts
John William has earned the respect of manyJohn William has earned the respect of manyJohn William has earned the respect of many
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Well with a hard Brexit more or less on the cards ( as TM heads to her meeting in Brussels ),
thanks to entrenched positions on both sides over the Irish border. It looks like a hard
Brexit's going to deliver what both sides wanted to avoid, a hard border between the
Irish Republic and Northern Ireland.
Reply With Quote
  #13987  
Old 17.10.2018, 10:16
Sandgrounder's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: ZH
Posts: 13,686
Groaned at 126 Times in 117 Posts
Thanked 25,158 Times in 9,684 Posts
Sandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
It's probably fine to have differing views, but not fine to sabotage the country by pulling in your own direction to try and force your will on the country.
Yep. Thinking about it, that probably sums it up nicely. Differing views are important in government to temper the extremes, but some of those clowns are in it for their own glory.
Reply With Quote
  #13988  
Old 17.10.2018, 12:33
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Trade talks to begin with the US the day after Brexit.

"Back of the queue"

Reply With Quote
  #13989  
Old 17.10.2018, 12:44
Jim2007's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Kt. Bern
Posts: 4,272
Groaned at 115 Times in 98 Posts
Thanked 5,015 Times in 2,367 Posts
Jim2007 has a reputation beyond reputeJim2007 has a reputation beyond reputeJim2007 has a reputation beyond reputeJim2007 has a reputation beyond reputeJim2007 has a reputation beyond reputeJim2007 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
Trade talks to begin with the US the day after Brexit.

"Back of the queue"
Haven't you heard BREXIT has been postponed indefinitely? Meanwhile trade talks between the US, Japan and the EU are on going...
Reply With Quote
  #13990  
Old 17.10.2018, 12:48
StirB's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Zurich
Posts: 3,406
Groaned at 141 Times in 123 Posts
Thanked 5,923 Times in 2,546 Posts
StirB has a reputation beyond reputeStirB has a reputation beyond reputeStirB has a reputation beyond reputeStirB has a reputation beyond reputeStirB has a reputation beyond reputeStirB has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
Trade talks to begin with the US the day after Brexit.

"Back of the queue"
Mmmm, the sooner we can get that chlorinated chicken and hormonal beef the better, I say!
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank StirB for this useful post:
  #13991  
Old 17.10.2018, 13:02
Sandgrounder's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: ZH
Posts: 13,686
Groaned at 126 Times in 117 Posts
Thanked 25,158 Times in 9,684 Posts
Sandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
Trade talks to begin with the US the day after Brexit.

"Back of the queue"

It's somehow senseless that the UK is going to all the trouble to extricate itself from the EU and all its apparent controlling and inflexibility, not to mention the expense, but then is only to happy to jump into bed with another huge economy run by a narcissistic, unpredictable and volatile man-baby who will, without a doubt, have volumes of conditions and tariffs most likely heavily weighted in favour of the US.

Pass the popcorn.
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank Sandgrounder for this useful post:
  #13992  
Old 17.10.2018, 13:29
aSwissInTheUS's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Zurich area
Posts: 10,465
Groaned at 81 Times in 72 Posts
Thanked 15,899 Times in 7,037 Posts
aSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
Haven't you heard BREXIT has been postponed indefinitely? Meanwhile trade talks between the US, Japan and the EU are on going...
According published draft agreement and as well if no agreement is made, march next year the UK will no longer be a member and will have no say in EU politics. No representation in the European Parliament and the Council, no participation in the decision making and committees. And as we know the committees is the real deal of the EU. For the proposed transition period, there are already rumors that it should be extended, where further talks for a permanent solution will be held it will have a status similar as Switzerland has now. In some way better in someway worse, as the UK can perform trade talks with other countries but not enact on them.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-32810887
https://assets.publishing.service.go..._AGREEMENT.pdf
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8587511.html
__________________
"I think so, Brain. But where are we going to find a gallon of whip cream and three yards of lederhosen at this time of night? Narf!"
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank aSwissInTheUS for this useful post:
  #13993  
Old 17.10.2018, 13:48
aSwissInTheUS's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Zurich area
Posts: 10,465
Groaned at 81 Times in 72 Posts
Thanked 15,899 Times in 7,037 Posts
aSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
Trade talks to begin with the US the day after Brexit.

"Back of the queue"
Back to the queue, as on January 14 2019 trade talks between the EU and USA as well as Japan and USA may commence.

brexit-referendum-thread-potential-consequences-gb-eu-brits-ch-useutrade.png

PS: A link to the source would be nice.
https://ustr.gov/about-us/policy-off...tion-announces

Last edited by aSwissInTheUS; 17.10.2018 at 14:20.
Reply With Quote
  #13994  
Old 17.10.2018, 18:34
marton's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Kt. Zürich
Posts: 10,676
Groaned at 355 Times in 306 Posts
Thanked 14,008 Times in 7,706 Posts
marton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Enjoy
Quote:
The French government has said a no-deal Brexit would leave Britons needing visas to visit France and put UK nationals already living there in an “irregular” legal situation.

It has published a draft bill aimed at addressing the consequences of the UK crashing out of the EU without any agreement. British citizens living in France would immediately become “third-country nationals”, preventing them from holding certain jobs and limiting access to healthcare and welfare, and passenger travel and freight movements across the Channel would be delayed.
Source

Might just be a negotiating position

Edit: Last week Thierry Grumiaux, of the National Federation of Road Transporters, said a delay of two minutes per vehicle for extra customs checks would led to 16-mile (27km) tailbacks on roads around major French ports.
Local officials say up to €30m (£26m) investment would be needed to make French ports ready for a hard Brexit.
Reply With Quote
  #13995  
Old 17.10.2018, 19:07
Jim2007's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Kt. Bern
Posts: 4,272
Groaned at 115 Times in 98 Posts
Thanked 5,015 Times in 2,367 Posts
Jim2007 has a reputation beyond reputeJim2007 has a reputation beyond reputeJim2007 has a reputation beyond reputeJim2007 has a reputation beyond reputeJim2007 has a reputation beyond reputeJim2007 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
Source

Might just be a negotiating position
.
It is simply the logical outcome of applying A50. If you are not a citizen of a member state of the EU/EEA/CH and your not a citizen of country that has visa free travel in the Schengen area and your not a permanent resident of a Schengen state, you need a visa.

There seems to be a lot of this kind of stuff out there. A friend of mine in Ireland is a building contractor who does a lot of public works, his contracts require him to use components sourced in the EU/EEA/CH, so what is he supposed with UK components in stock if there is no deal - toss them or what?
__________________
"There is no passion to be found playing small - in settling for a life that is less than the one you are capable of living." - Nelson Mandela
Reply With Quote
  #13996  
Old 17.10.2018, 19:24
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Zurich
Posts: 205
Groaned at 13 Times in 11 Posts
Thanked 254 Times in 136 Posts
John William has earned the respect of manyJohn William has earned the respect of manyJohn William has earned the respect of many
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

France's No deal Brexit plans published today - in a nutshell

New french - No Brexit plans crack down on Brits. The French government says Britons
wanting to visit France for more than three months, would need a visa under a
no-deal Brexit, and those already living here could be treated asbeing in France illegally,
unless they have the necessary residence permits.

It also said checks would need to be established on goods and people going to and
from the UK, as well as veterinary checks on animals and animal products.

Suffice to say here's another fine mess Boris, Moggers and the Hard Brexit's, have
got us into.

BBC News - Theresa May, Brexit deal possible with intensive work
Reply With Quote
  #13997  
Old 17.10.2018, 19:41
Jim2007's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Kt. Bern
Posts: 4,272
Groaned at 115 Times in 98 Posts
Thanked 5,015 Times in 2,367 Posts
Jim2007 has a reputation beyond reputeJim2007 has a reputation beyond reputeJim2007 has a reputation beyond reputeJim2007 has a reputation beyond reputeJim2007 has a reputation beyond reputeJim2007 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
France's No deal Brexit plans published today - in a nutshell

New french - No Brexit plans crack down on Brits. The French government says Britons
wanting to visit France for more than three months, would need a visa under a
no-deal Brexit, and those already living here could be treated asbeing in France illegally,
unless they have the necessary residence permits.

It also said checks would need to be established on goods and people going to and
from the UK, as well as veterinary checks on animals and animal products.

Suffice to say here's another fine mess Boris, Moggers and the Hard Brexit's, have
got us into.

BBC News - Theresa May, Brexit deal possible with intensive work
I think the biggest danger is that they go crashing out at the end of March and then sometime in April realize a transition is needed. At that point there is no longer a legal basis for it as that provided for in the treaties is over. We are rapidly approaching the point where someone in the UK needs to at least press the pause button at the very least.
Reply With Quote
  #13998  
Old 17.10.2018, 19:42
Medea Fleecestealer's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 20,463
Groaned at 354 Times in 269 Posts
Thanked 14,919 Times in 8,573 Posts
Medea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
France's No deal Brexit plans published today - in a nutshell

New french - No Brexit plans crack down on Brits. The French government says Britons
wanting to visit France for more than three months, would need a visa under a
no-deal Brexit, and those already living here could be treated asbeing in France illegally,
unless they have the necessary residence permits.

It also said checks would need to be established on goods and people going to and
from the UK, as well as veterinary checks on animals and animal products.

Suffice to say here's another fine mess Boris, Moggers and the Hard Brexit's, have
got us into.

BBC News - Theresa May, Brexit deal possible with intensive work
Nothing new in any of that as far as I can see. Atm they can be in any Schengen country for up to 3 months as can any other EU national. And any non-French citizen should already have the appropriate permit to live/work there. And checks on animals, products, etc, was always going to be the case when we leave. Sorry, old news - very old news.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Medea Fleecestealer for this useful post:
  #13999  
Old 17.10.2018, 19:54
aSwissInTheUS's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Zurich area
Posts: 10,465
Groaned at 81 Times in 72 Posts
Thanked 15,899 Times in 7,037 Posts
aSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
his contracts require him to use components sourced in the EU/EEA/CH, so what is he supposed with UK components in stock if there is no deal - toss them or what?
I would say he sourced them from EU/EEA/CH. But maybe that is to naive and simple.

Quote:
View Post
And any non-French citizen should already have the appropriate permit to live/work there.
Problem is that France has no resident register, and there is no obligation for EU/CH people to register with the commune (save some communes in the Appellation Alsace-Moselle) nor do get a residence permit (carte de séjour).

But you can register and get a permit which, as already discussed in this thread, is highly recommended for any UK citizen living in France.

In most other European countries and Switzerland this should be less an issue as there is an obligation to register with the commune or some other authority. And hopefully that has already been done.
__________________
"I think so, Brain. But where are we going to find a gallon of whip cream and three yards of lederhosen at this time of night? Narf!"
Reply With Quote
  #14000  
Old 17.10.2018, 20:03
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Zurich
Posts: 205
Groaned at 13 Times in 11 Posts
Thanked 254 Times in 136 Posts
John William has earned the respect of manyJohn William has earned the respect of manyJohn William has earned the respect of many
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

And as we all know, Eurosceptic ex Chancellor of the Exchequer, Nigel Lawson now known as Lord Lawson of Blaby, managed to secure his French residents permit earlier this year, despite holding down a UK job in the House of Lords.

Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
europe




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 3 (0 members and 3 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Latest Referendum, what will be consequences for EU (C permit and B permit) holders? expat2014 Permits/visas/government 3 11.02.2014 07:59
Importing vehicles and the VAT consequences in Switzerland from France BEFO Finance/banking/taxation 6 07.08.2013 14:11
The (Available in CH) Dog Food Review Thread meloncollie Pet corner 44 08.05.2012 19:15
Common-law marriage and consequences in CH Mishto Family matters/health 9 01.10.2011 21:03
Something for the Brits: M&S in CH mark Daily life 11 15.11.2007 11:18


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 23:17.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0