The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[Reb77Br]

	Quote:	Odile
	Mad Cow disease confirmed in Scotland. Wow, that was the last thing the British farming industry needed.

	Quote:	Dougal's Breakfast
	There are sporadic cases every couple of years. Really nothing to get into a panic about, and absolutely nothing to do with Brexit.

Obviously not. The Scots voted Remain.

Brexit: EU ready to extend transition period

I wonder how this is going to go down. I suspect that a lot of people, even perhaps some Remainers, must be so sick of the subject by now that they just want Brexit done and dusted.

[Sandgrounder]

	Quote:	Reb77Br
	I suspect that a lot of people, even perhaps some Remainers, must be so sick of the subject by now that they just want Brexit done and dusted.

The cost of all the arsing about must be eye-watering.

[Reb77Br]

Yes, and I bet we'll never be told how much that is.

[Odile]

	Quote:	Dougal's Breakfast
	There are sporadic cases every couple of years. Really nothing to get into a panic about, and absolutely nothing to do with Brexit.

Of course nothing directly. But if we go out with 'no deal' - the farming industry is going to be hit VERY hard, and others will use it to refuse imports of beef from the UK.

The last ban lasted 10 years and was lifted in 2006.

And we humans are not even allowed to give blood yet, in CH or EU.

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	Odile
	And we humans are not even allowed to give blood yet, in CH or EU.

You won't ever be would be my guess, you lived in the UK at the time.

[Odile]

... and just a few miles from where it all started - we used to have lunch at the publ next to that butcher's, with colleagues, every Friday lunchtime. So yes, that explains a few things

[marton]

	Quote:	Odile
	Of course nothing directly. But if we go out with 'no deal' - the farming industry is going to be hit VERY hard, and others will use it to refuse imports of beef from the UK. The last ban lasted 10 years and was lifted in 2006. And we humans are not even allowed to give blood yet, in CH or EU.

I remember the French wanted to distinguish their beef from British so they stamped the carcasses VF for vache française (French cow) but it could also be taken as vache fou (mad cow).
Enigmatic lot our cousins over the Channel!

[22 yards]

	Quote:	marton
	I remember the French wanted to distinguish their beef from British so they stamped the carcasses VF for vache française (French cow) but it could also be taken as vache fou (mad cow). Enigmatic lot our cousins over the Channel!

"Viande française"and "vache folle"... but yes, your point is correct!

[marton]

More kicking the can down the road!

	Quote:
	Juncker: extension of Brexit transition period 'probably will happen' European commission president says UK likely to stay under EU law beyond 2020

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[John William]

	Quote:	marton
	More kicking the can down the road! Source

Oh dear, yet another year of living in servitude as vassals of the European Union for Jacob Rees-Mogg
and his constituents in North-East Somerset !!

[Odile]

Will anyone from EF be on the march in London tomorrow. I was going to go, but have had to cancel for family reasons. I shall be there in spirit, and on several t-shirts and banners.

Best assessment so far, on QT last night:

https://www.facebook.com/BBCQuestion...2162307826808/

[curley]

	Quote:	Odile
	Will anyone from EF be on the march in London tomorrow. I was going to go, but have had to cancel for family reasons. I shall be there in spirit, and on several t-shirts and banners. Best assessment so far, on QT last night: https://www.facebook.com/BBCQuestion...2162307826808/

Bob Marley would turn in his grave if hearing he is used for something that has actually been voted on!



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[Sandgrounder]

	Quote:	curley
	Bob Marley would turn in his grave if hearing he is used for something that has actually been voted on! source

Or it could just apply to the idiotic process as it stands now. Not sure that the current dog's dinner is anywhere near what people voted for, never mind against.

[baboon]

	Quote:	curley
	Bob Marley would turn in his grave if hearing he is used for something that has actually been voted on! source

Given that the point is to campaign for those denied a vote in the referendum but directly affected by the result (all UK citizens in the EU and EU citizens in the UK) I think it is quite appropriate.

[Odile]

BTW, who in the Conservative Party- would have the qualities required to take over from Mrs May. I can't think of a single one ... can you?

[curley]

	Quote:	baboon
	Given that the point is to campaign for those denied a vote in the referendum but directly affected by the result (all UK citizens in the EU and EU citizens in the UK) I think it is quite appropriate.

I'd agree with you there.

But Brexit vote was 2016. The first of those marches was in June 2018.
If they march about their right to vote in future I'm right behind you.
If they march to change a vote they thought the fellas at home will take care of in their interest while they lean back in the sun or amass money in some comfi office-chair somewhere, I'm not.

And Bob can't give his opintion anymore.

I know a guy who took holidays, travelled all the way home (not English, guess that explains it) just to vote on what he thought was important. THAT is impressive, honest, active!
He didn't tell me what he voted but he also didn't tell me if it was "worth" the effort for him or not. So I take it, doing his part in a country that provides the rights Bob Marley wanted was good enough for him.

[k_and_e]

	Quote:	Odile
	Will anyone from EF be on the march in London tomorrow. I was going to go, but have had to cancel for family reasons. I shall be there in spirit, and on several t-shirts and banners. Best assessment so far, on QT last night: https://www.facebook.com/BBCQuestion...2162307826808/

I think this is a great idea.


I am myself planning to organise a replay of the World Cup Final of 2010, so that we can get a final result of the match and end all discussion of who should be the rightful winner.

[Odile]

No-one is asking for a second Referendum- but a vote on the final deal, without lies, fraud, Russian intefference, and with full knowledge of consequences. Simple enough - it is called 'Democracy'.

Back to the future leader of our country and the Brexit negotiations - who would you suggest from the Conservative Party. Come on - there must be someone you think is up to the job . Pray tell.

[Sandgrounder]

	Quote:	k_and_e
	I think this is a great idea. I am myself planning to organise a replay of the World Cup Final of 2010, so that we can get a final result of the match and end all discussion of who should be the rightful winner.

Not sure what's so mind-bendingly difficult in understanding the current situation.

Yes, the vote is past and old news and will unlikely be able to be rerun so the target now is to come out of it with some kind of deal.

Is it so difficult to fathom that UK people are deeply concerned with the way the whole thing is and has been (mis)handled?

Even if you are a hardened Brexit supporter you have to be pretty dumb not to question the utter shit show this has turned into.

The extent of issues and implications that clearly weren't even dreamed of when they blindly hit the "let's have a referendum" button is staggering.

[k_and_e]

	Quote:	Odile
	without lies, fraud, Russian intefference, and with full knowledge of consequences.

Lies and fraud are regular propaganda that all involved parties use in politics.
Russian (or any other) interference is something you can't control.
Full knowledge of consequences: nobody has achieved this in history before.