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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Old 14.11.2018, 01:30
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This big negotiation seems to have collapsed into accepting whatever the EU choose to offer.
Well there is not much left at this stage:

- With 20+ objections at the WTO that is not going anywhere soon
- A no deal would leave them with no trade deals as result
- A reversal of A50 is not a legal certainty and a big climb down

I suspect there will be a bit of window dressing to make it a little more palatable, a lot of shouting and then acceptance.
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Old 14.11.2018, 08:33
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Just got back from a meeting...

what is going on: Any detail of the 'deal'?

...said Theresa May to her cabinet yesterday.
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Old 14.11.2018, 08:38
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Very little information, rumours of a customs union!

This big negotiation seems to have collapsed into accepting whatever the EU choose to offer.
But presumably dressed up in language that sounds rather more acceptable to May.
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Old 14.11.2018, 10:40
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The two big questions:
  • Can the UK get out of the customs union backstop?
  • What does it mean for Northern Ireland?

If either of these two questions are not answered satisfactorily then there's no chance in hell it's getting through Parliament. It'll either be no deal or back to the polls.
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Old 14.11.2018, 12:50
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Anything, but anything ... could happen now. Good job I am not a betting woman ...


The best tweet from Ken Clarke today- short, succint, perfect.

'Brexiters don't like Brexit- so we better Remain. The Country united at last' - brilliant our Ken.
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Old 14.11.2018, 13:03
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Anything, but anything ... could happen now. Good job I am not a betting woman ...
But you are, only question is do you pay when you lose?
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Old 14.11.2018, 13:21
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Unusually for this Government they seem to have kept a tight lid on the details of the deal.

I bet Trump is jealous, in his White House the details would have been leaked long ago.
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Old 14.11.2018, 13:24
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Unusually for this Government they seem to have kept a tight lid on the details of the deal.

I bet Trump is jealous, in his White House the details would have been leaked long ago.
According to The Times it's the EU that's leaked it this time around.
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If possible, it's food for thought, and yet more evidence that the proposed deal 'could' get to homeopathic level of dilution.
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Robert Peston‏Verified account @Peston 1m1 minute ago

As expected, @IanBlackfordMP tells @theresa_may that the Scottish government wants the same backstop deal as Northern Ireland which would keep it in customs union and single market for goods #PMQs
https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1062681480034484224
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WOW - it was even quicker than I expected so so predictable
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According to The Times it's the EU that's leaked it this time around.
Thank god somebody's leaking it because most of PMQs was based upon speculation and rumour. That isn't democracy.

Elsewhere, Moggie is using more emotive language...

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LibDem’s Tom Brake deploying “vassal state” language of ERG about May deal - though Rees Mogg has now moved on to “slave state”
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Old 14.11.2018, 14:09
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According to The Times it's the EU that's leaked it this time around.
But does anybody have a link to what has been leaked?
It is claimed the agreement is 500 pages long and all I have seen so far is a paragraph on customs union?
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It will be published in full later today, after Cabinet, so there's no point really in digging out dubious leaks. Plenty of reading fodder for this evening. Deep joy!
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Old 14.11.2018, 14:19
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But does anybody have a link to what has been leaked?
It is claimed the agreement is 500 pages long and all I have seen so far is a paragraph on customs union?
Some stuff here
https://www.ft.com/content/693b88b0-...5-04b8afea6ea3

Edit - glancing through it, can't see it has a hope in hell of getting through the commons.
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Old 14.11.2018, 14:33
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But does anybody have a link to what has been leaked?
It is claimed the agreement is 500 pages long and all I have seen so far is a paragraph on customs union?

if there would be a new voting, will then only the people that read all 500 pages be allowed to vote, to avoid uninformed decisions?
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Old 14.11.2018, 14:38
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if there would be a new voting, will then only the people that read all 500 pages be allowed to vote, to avoid uninformed decisions?
Nope. The difference is it is there to read. If you don't read it, it's up to you. A world away from campaigning just with lies and made-up dog-whistle soundbites.
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Old 14.11.2018, 15:00
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Some stuff here
https://www.ft.com/content/693b88b0-...5-04b8afea6ea3

Edit - glancing through it, can't see it has a hope in hell of getting through the commons.
Or maybe people will be so fed up with the whole circus that they will vote for anything just so they can move on.

Seems the UK will be paying into the EU budget for the foreseeable future
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Or maybe people will be so fed up with the whole circus that they will vote for anything just so they can move on.

Seems the UK will be paying into the EU budget for the foreseeable future
And adhering to EU rules and regulations without having any say on it, so much for the Brexiteers promise
of bringing back control !!
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And adhering to EU rules and regulations without having any say on it, so much for the Brexiteers promise
of bringing back control !!
Do you follow the news? It's the Brexiteers who will vote this down.
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Old 14.11.2018, 19:53
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Do you follow the news? It's the Brexiteers who will vote this down.
The optics of the Brexiteers voting down the Brexit deal will not be good!

Whatever the Brexiteers say it will be presented so; most voters will not bother to dig into the details!
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