View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen? |
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union
|    | 49 | 23.11% |
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU
|    | 68 | 32.08% |
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK
|    | 22 | 10.38% |
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing
|    | 23 | 10.85% |
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us
|    | 17 | 8.02% |
I don't really care
|    | 33 | 15.57% |  | | | 
14.11.2018, 02:30
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | This big negotiation seems to have collapsed into accepting whatever the EU choose to offer.  | | | | | Well there is not much left at this stage:
- With 20+ objections at the WTO that is not going anywhere soon
- A no deal would leave them with no trade deals as result
- A reversal of A50 is not a legal certainty and a big climb down
I suspect there will be a bit of window dressing to make it a little more palatable, a lot of shouting and then acceptance.
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14.11.2018, 09:33
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: |  | | | Just got back from a meeting...
what is going on: Any detail of the 'deal'? | | | | |
...said Theresa May to her cabinet yesterday.
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14.11.2018, 09:38
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Very little information, rumours of a customs union!
This big negotiation seems to have collapsed into accepting whatever the EU choose to offer.  | | | | | But presumably dressed up in language that sounds rather more acceptable to May.
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14.11.2018, 11:40
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The two big questions: - Can the UK get out of the customs union backstop?
- What does it mean for Northern Ireland?
If either of these two questions are not answered satisfactorily then there's no chance in hell it's getting through Parliament. It'll either be no deal or back to the polls.
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14.11.2018, 13:50
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Anything, but anything ... could happen now. Good job I am not a betting woman ...
The best tweet from Ken Clarke today- short, succint, perfect.
'Brexiters don't like Brexit- so we better Remain. The Country united at last' - brilliant our Ken.
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14.11.2018, 14:03
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: |  | | | Anything, but anything ... could happen now. Good job I am not a betting woman ... | | | | | But you are, only question is do you pay when you lose? | 
14.11.2018, 14:21
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in
Unusually for this Government they seem to have kept a tight lid on the details of the deal.
I bet Trump is jealous, in his White House the details would have been leaked long ago.
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14.11.2018, 14:24
| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Unusually for this Government they seem to have kept a tight lid on the details of the deal.
I bet Trump is jealous, in his White House the details would have been leaked long ago. | | | | | According to The Times it's the EU that's leaked it this time around.
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14.11.2018, 14:24
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If possible, it's food for thought, and yet more evidence that the proposed deal 'could' get to homeopathic level of dilution. | Quote: |  | | | | | | | | https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1062681480034484224 | 
14.11.2018, 14:27
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WOW - it was even quicker than I expected  so so predictable | This user would like to thank for this useful post: | | 
14.11.2018, 15:03
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | According to The Times it's the EU that's leaked it this time around. | | | | | Thank god somebody's leaking it because most of PMQs was based upon speculation and rumour. That isn't democracy.
Elsewhere, Moggie is using more emotive language... | Quote: |  | | | | | | | | https://twitter.com/faisalislam/stat...89286544351232 | 
14.11.2018, 15:09
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | According to The Times it's the EU that's leaked it this time around. | | | | | But does anybody have a link to what has been leaked?
It is claimed the agreement is 500 pages long and all I have seen so far is a paragraph on customs union?
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14.11.2018, 15:14
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in
It will be published in full later today, after Cabinet, so there's no point really in digging out dubious leaks. Plenty of reading fodder for this evening. Deep joy! | 
14.11.2018, 15:19
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | But does anybody have a link to what has been leaked?
It is claimed the agreement is 500 pages long and all I have seen so far is a paragraph on customs union? | | | | | Some stuff here https://www.ft.com/content/693b88b0-...5-04b8afea6ea3
Edit - glancing through it, can't see it has a hope in hell of getting through the commons.
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14.11.2018, 15:33
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | But does anybody have a link to what has been leaked?
It is claimed the agreement is 500 pages long and all I have seen so far is a paragraph on customs union? | | | | |
if there would be a new voting, will then only the people that read all 500 pages be allowed to vote, to avoid uninformed decisions?
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14.11.2018, 15:38
| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | if there would be a new voting, will then only the people that read all 500 pages be allowed to vote, to avoid uninformed decisions? | | | | | Nope. The difference is it is there to read. If you don't read it, it's up to you. A world away from campaigning just with lies and made-up dog-whistle soundbites. | This user would like to thank for this useful post: | | 
14.11.2018, 16:00
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Or maybe people will be so fed up with the whole circus that they will vote for anything just so they can move on.
Seems the UK will be paying into the EU budget for the foreseeable future | 
14.11.2018, 17:35
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Or maybe people will be so fed up with the whole circus that they will vote for anything just so they can move on.
Seems the UK will be paying into the EU budget for the foreseeable future  | | | | | And adhering to EU rules and regulations without having any say on it, so much for the Brexiteers promise
of bringing back control !!
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14.11.2018, 17:38
| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | And adhering to EU rules and regulations without having any say on it, so much for the Brexiteers promise
of bringing back control !! | | | | | Do you follow the news? It's the Brexiteers who will vote this down.
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14.11.2018, 20:53
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Do you follow the news? It's the Brexiteers who will vote this down. | | | | | The optics of the Brexiteers voting down the Brexit deal will not be good!
Whatever the Brexiteers say it will be presented so; most voters will not bother to dig into the details!
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