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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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They ruled it can ...


More and more are talking about this option. Not what I would choose- remain would be so much better, but ...

https://www.ft.com/content/833dd0b6-..._Doby1_StM8GuE
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They ruled it can ...


More and more are talking about this option. Not what I would choose- remain would be so much better, but ...

https://www.ft.com/content/833dd0b6-..._Doby1_StM8GuE
FAKE NEWS!

They haven't ruled on anything.
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Old 27.11.2018, 17:24
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Behind a paywall anyway so not much point in linking to it.
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It is indeed part of the problem that Alabama has that they are competing for jobs and investment with the likes of California on terms that are not in their favour.
That probably applies to every entity of sufficient size, say with 1mln people or more.
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Old 27.11.2018, 17:40
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I presume we'll leave with no deal now.

Will make it easier to rejoin in 2020 when everything has gone to shit and we're offered the Euro at 1:1
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I think that's a good thing, the ruling will provide solid footing. It's just a shame the date of the verdict is unknown.
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I think that's a good thing, the ruling will provide solid footing. It's just a shame the date of the verdict is unknown.
Apparently they'll have the ruling soon enough. I can't see them ruling in the Remainers that brought this case favour - how can you have countries flip flapping in and out all the time? It's only right that EU should decide whether the Art 50 process can be cancelled or not.
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Old 27.11.2018, 18:30
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Agreed- there will me no 'cake and eat it' deal- and all but a few extremists are doing everything to stop no deal.
We had the cake and were happily eating it until some selfish scrotes put it out in the rain, and we'll never have that recipe again....cue Richard Harris
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I presume we'll leave with no deal now.

Will make it easier to rejoin in 2020 when everything has gone to shit and we're offered the Euro at 1:1
Why 2020?

Negotiations to join up will probably take far longer than that.
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Apparently they'll have the ruling soon enough. I can't see them ruling in the Remainers that brought this case favour - how can you have countries flip flapping in and out all the time? It's only right that EU should decide whether the Art 50 process can be cancelled or not.
That is, if the court decides on the basis of what is practical for the EU. If they decide on the basis of what the authors of article 50 actually had in mind, the verdict could be more complicated.
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Old 27.11.2018, 19:04
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Apparently they'll have the ruling soon enough. I can't see them ruling in the Remainers that brought this case favour - how can you have countries flip flapping in and out all the time? It's only right that EU should decide whether the Art 50 process can be cancelled or not.
It is actually a two-step process. An advocate general, a senior lawyer knowledgeable in the law, precedence and European legislation will make a preliminary ‘recommendation before Christmas. The Court will then review that recommendation and decide. They hope to have the decision before the end of the year. They could agree with the advocate general, which the do in over 80% of the cases, or disagree. Their decision will be binding in all member states, including the UK and is not subject to appeal.
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Why 2020?

Negotiations to join up will probably take far longer than that.
Was sort of a joke. I'll be glad when I can use some good old British humour instead of the ineffective EU whooshings we're forced to at the moment.
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Farage going crazy on LBC because the French are no longer taking every care to stop those from the 'jungle' crossing. I think it might get a lot worse after March 2019 ...the EU in general will only be too pleased to help them on their way ...
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Farage going crazy on LBC because the French are no longer taking every care to stop those from the 'jungle' crossing. I think it might get a lot worse after March 2019 ...the EU in general will only be too pleased to help them on their way ...
Has no one told those in the Jungle that Hard Brexit is coming and there won’t be drinking water or medicines in the UK?!
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Old 28.11.2018, 02:10
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Has no one told those in the Jungle that Hard Brexit is coming and there won’t be drinking water or medicines in the UK?!
Reminds me of the 70s and Russian defectors at Shannon airport....

The were all gun ho to stay in Ireland, until one of them read about a bombing in Belfast, suddenly they all wanted to get back on the plane and could not be persuaded to remain!
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UK significantly worse off under all Brexit scenarios - official forecast.
The government and the Bank of England will publish reports on Wednesday that outline the economic costs associated with a range of Brexit scenarios.

The UK economy will be worse off under all of them, UK Treasury chief Philip Hammond told Sky News.

The UK would be significantly worse off under all possible Brexit scenarios in 15 years’ time, according to a benchmark economic analysis produced by a range of government departments including the Treasury.

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Hi leavers, enjoy!
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Has no one told those in the Jungle that Hard Brexit is coming and there won’t be drinking water or medicines in the UK?!
Seeing they all so desperately want to leave the EU, I assume they will be pro-Brexit when the second referndum comes?
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https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1067763870385750016

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Shadow chancellor says remain should be on ballot paper but ‘no deal’ should not
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They'll do ANYTHING if they think it'll mean them getting power. The point remains though that McDonnell and Corbyn hate the EU.
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So what will it be- this bad deal, or Remain? Anything could happen - and you all know what I wish for
All I can see it's people in their fifties and sixties (Corbyn is 69, May is 62, Cameron 52, Farage 54), and I really mean no offence, are deciding on the future of the next generations who might want something totally different in say 10 years from now on. Do they have any idea how different these new generations are? I wouldn't be surprised if younger generations were much more open to the idea of Europe and not so much to the idealised glory of the old empire.
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