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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Well the motor industry is cyclical so that could partly account for a slump, but BREXIT definitely has an impact. People donít like to spend unnecessarily in times of uncertainty, so changing the car gets posted Ďuntil we see how thing turnoutí. New drivers buy a second hand car for the time being and so on.

You can expect this outcome in the case of most non essential goods. People will postpone purchasing decisions in case they need the money for an emergency such as a job loss and so on.
Jaguar / Land Rover sells approx 20% of its cars in the UK. The effect you describe has therefore not too much influence on global sales but mainly on the domestice market and doesn't explain what's happening there.
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Brexit deal latest news: Donald Tusk warns it's 'no deal or no Brexit' if MPs reject May's agreement.

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The EU really has no other choice, when we consider the process the EU has to go through to get agreement to the deal from everyone who has a say in the matter then the timescale is already tight.
No deal it is then. Excellent.
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No deal it is then. Excellent.
Not so fast...
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The won't let No Deal happen- so that leaves ... only one option.
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The won't let No Deal happen- so that leaves ... only one option.
No deal is the de facto result of not agreeing a deal. As there is so much squabbling within parliament they could end up sleep walking into it. Canít wait.
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No deal is the de facto result of not agreeing a deal. As there is so much squabbling within parliament they could end up sleep walking into it. Canít wait.
Looks like it, seems a number of MPs are clinging to the fantasy of negotiating a different deal. There really is not enough time left for the EU to get all the necessary approvals for a new deal; even if the EU were interested in more negotiations which seems unlikely.
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No deal is the de facto result of not agreeing a deal. As there is so much squabbling within parliament they could end up sleep walking into it. Canít wait.
and tell, me how will YOU be affected by the massive mess that will follow? Or benefit?
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and tell, me how will YOU be affected by the massive mess that will follow? Or benefit?

Perhaps he's a member of the Make Britain Suffer Society ?
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Perhaps he's a member of the Make Britain Suffer Society ?
As for the Brexit Parliamentarians - Roundheads and killjoys the lot of them, make Britain & Brits abroad
suffer with a Puritanical hard Brexit !!
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and tell, me how will YOU be affected by the massive mess that will follow? Or benefit?
I donít know how I will be affected, as I canít be certain what will happen. How will you be affected?
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We are totally dependent on UK pensions in Sterling- for a start, are you?

As well as still living part-time in the UK, have all our family, daughters, grandchidlren there, and our very best friends, etc.

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Stephen Fry illustrates the situation rather well:

https://youtu.be/UYonSZ8s3_o
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We are totally dependent on UK pensions in Sterling- for a start, are you?

As well as still living part-time in the UK, have all our family, daughters, grandchidlren there, and our very best friends, etc.
You can go back much richer as your Swiss assets have appreciated.
I thought all your family were relocating to Europe?
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Don't want to go back- or certainly don't want to be forced back.

Yes, my daughters and grandchildren will have the choice - with access to Irish and Swiss passports...
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Just speculating. What in UK law would prevent Madame May from withdrawing her governments Article 50 notification?
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Nothing, nothing at all :

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...QM-bZHenwlK_T4
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We are totally dependent on UK pensions in Sterling- for a start, are you?

As well as still living part-time in the UK, have all our family, daughters, grandchidlren there, and our very best friends, etc.
Thatís your own fault though, not Brexitís. Who did you have to blame after the 2008 financial crash when the Swiss Francís value against the pound went up by about 30%? If you choose to live in another country from that from which you draw your pension then you have to accept the risks that come with it. Itís the same for all us foreigners living in Switzerland. You should always have a Plan B.
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Not blaming anyone - you asked. And we have plan B, C, D and more ... thanks. Decisions sometimes have to be made for family reasons, that don't always tally with realities on the ground - especially massive unexpected changes which just could not be planned for at the time. That is life. We will always be ok, whatever happens- providing good health prevails. More to quality of life than just money.

Notice that you did not bother to reply - how is Brexit outcome going to affect you, since you feel so strongly about it.
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So the PM could do it, with the consent of Parliament. It may be the only way for her to survive and/or avoid an election which would damage the Conservative party even more.
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