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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Old 11.12.2018, 19:42
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Because free trade deals are better than WTO, and large economies are able to negotiate them to their benefit. Australia has negotiated free trade agreements worth way more than the EU has.
Australia hasn't pissed off the Russians or Argentinians though, has it?
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Old 11.12.2018, 19:51
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Because free trade deals are better than WTO, and large economies are able to negotiate them to their benefit. Australia has negotiated free trade agreements worth way more than the EU has.
Did you read the original post I responded to...
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Old 11.12.2018, 20:41
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It is the biggest European market for Germany, France, Italy...
No, no and no. No. 2 for Germany, no. 4 or 5 for France and Italy.
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Old 11.12.2018, 20:47
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Sums it all up rather well..

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Old 11.12.2018, 20:55
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Hammond was totally Bercowed today :


https://youtu.be/OJqZCXx8h7E



'“He said: “I would just very gently say to the Chancellor who may have been listening with great care.

“It is quite difficult to vote for something if there isn’t a vote.

The House of Commons then erupted in laughter and cheers.

Mr Bercow continued: “I’m only trying to help the right honourable gentlemen.


yep, bleeding obvious.

Yvette was sharp too- they'd better not even begin to think they would get away with this:

https://www.facebook.com/TheIndepend...3673284785829/

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Old 11.12.2018, 22:38
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Various media are reporting that enough Conservative MPs have submitted ‘no-confidence’ letters which will trigger a leadership battle.

My goodness it is getting complicated.

Oh, this is not to be confused with a ‘no confidence’ motion in Parliament that Mr. Corbyn is advocating.

BoJo for President, or something like that.
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If it was such a great idea, why have they negotiated some many trade deals and why are the negotiating a deal with the EU at the moment.

As for the rest, twaddle that was hashed out months ago. Try and read up.
Is Australia doing good? Yes. Is it part of the EU? No. Still, let's be honest here, the EU is a big falling protectionist market. Growth is very low, wages of the youth are low, population is in decline, and innovation lags behind the USA and China. The question here is that Brussels bureaucrats are spoiled brats who are trying to blackmail Britain for no reason. They should respect the democratic choice of the British people, sign a trade deal, and move on. No need to read up.
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Old 12.12.2018, 00:20
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sign a trade deal, and move on.
And how would you resolve the backstop?
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Old 12.12.2018, 00:21
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Various media are reporting that enough Conservative MPs have submitted ‘no-confidence’ letters which will trigger a leadership battle.

My goodness it is getting complicated.

Oh, this is not to be confused with a ‘no confidence’ motion in Parliament that Mr. Corbyn is advocating.

BoJo for President, or something like that.
I expect May’s little trip around Europe right now is to demonstrate to BoJo and friends what awaits them should they wish to challenge her. No renegotiation, just the same three options to pick from, will be interesting to see who will risk their career on it. Raab might be dumb enough since he is still coming to grips with the concept of an island and the importance of ports...
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Australia hasn't pissed off the Russians or Argentinians though, has it?
Oh please, Russia is not a big deal for the UK. It's such a small market, only noted for it's military power and energy exports. And Argentinians? Are you serious, who cares?
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Old 12.12.2018, 00:24
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No, no and no. No. 2 for Germany, no. 4 or 5 for France and Italy.
The UK is the biggest European consumer of luxury German cars, Ferraris, and Champagne.
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Old 12.12.2018, 00:28
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Is Australia doing good? Yes. Is it part of the EU? No. Still, let's be honest here, the EU is a big falling protectionist market. Growth is very low, wages of the youth are low, population is in decline, and innovation lags behind the USA and China. The question here is that Brussels bureaucrats are spoiled brats who are trying to blackmail Britain for no reason. They should respect the democratic choice of the British people, sign a trade deal, and move on. No need to read up.
In 2017, China was the world's largest economy. It produced $23.1 trillion in economic output
The European Union was in second place, generating $19.9 trillion.
The United States remained at third place, producing $19.4 trillion.
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Old 12.12.2018, 00:36
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The UK is the biggest European consumer of luxury German cars, Ferraris, and Champagne.
And how would you resolve the backstop?
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Old 12.12.2018, 00:55
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Uh oh!!!

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I know I’m hours after the fray. But source in No10 says 48 letters are in and second source says conversations have taken place between Cabinet Office and Palace 3:14 PM - 11 Dec 2018
https://twitter.com/ShippersUnbound/...30744693047297
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Old 12.12.2018, 03:54
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Oh please, Russia is not a big deal for the UK. It's such a small market, only noted for it's military power and energy exports. And Argentinians? Are you serious, who cares?
They both happen to be WTO members who have lodged objections to your trade schedules and will do everything possible to prevent your trade deals going anywhere.
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Old 12.12.2018, 04:15
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The UK is the biggest European consumer of luxury German cars, Ferraris, and Champagne.
The thing that always amuses me about BREXITEERS is their inability to put themselves in other people’s shoes!

- They expect political leaders around the world will disadvantage themselves to give the UK a good deal

- They claim that they will endure economic hardship for their principles, but expect everyone else’s can be bought

- They fail to hold their own leadership accountable for not stepping up to deliver BREXIT, while expecting their opponents to do it for them..

- They seem to think a position of strength can come from walking a way from every trade deal they have and then trying to renegotiate them... where as even the village idiot knows now is the time to squeeze a good deal out of the UK

Where as the reality is the UK is a medium size economy, big enough to be of interest to the major trading blocks, but small enough to be the junior partner in every deal. And junior partners do not get to dictate terms, no with the EU, not with the US, China etc...
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The thing that always amuses me about BREXITEERS is their inability to put themselves in other people’s shoes!


Perhaps not, Paolo Barnard, the most censored italian economic journalist, reveals the truth about BREXIT and the European Union.

https://www.facebook.com/DemocraziaV...location=group
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Various media are reporting that enough Conservative MPs have submitted ‘no-confidence’ letters which will trigger a leadership battle.

My goodness it is getting complicated.

Oh, this is not to be confused with a ‘no confidence’ motion in Parliament that Mr. Corbyn is advocating.

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And as for the letters, they were almost certainly there. However I think it was realised that unless they could guarantee unseating May then it wasn’t worth the risk of going through with the no confidence motion. The stakes were too high that if they failed then the Tories would be stuck with her for another year thanks to party rules. I think they’re keeping their powder dry until they know they’ll definitely be rid of her I.e. after this deal gets rejected.

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And how would you resolve the backstop?
Easy, allow the UK the ability to exit the backstop if the UK (Parliament) chooses to do so at a later date. This is normal for every single international treaty but the EU obviously think that they're above it. If this were on the table then I'm in no doubt the deal vote get voted through.
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Perhaps not, Paolo Barnard, the most censored italian economic journalist, reveals the truth about BREXIT and the European Union.

https://www.facebook.com/DemocraziaV...location=group
So you instantly believe everything any political party posts on their FB page.

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