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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Old 12.12.2018, 08:44
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Oh please, Russia is not a big deal for the UK. It's such a small market, only noted for it's military power and energy exports. And Argentinians? Are you serious, who cares?
Do you know how WTO works? Hint, Jim does...

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They both happen to be WTO members who have lodged objections to your trade schedules and will do everything possible to prevent your trade deals going anywhere.
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Old 12.12.2018, 08:54
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Aaaaaaaand it's confirmed. Theresa May to face a no confidence vote tonight.

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Old 12.12.2018, 08:58
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Aaaaaaaand it's confirmed. Theresa May to face a no confidence vote tonight.
Bye bye Theresa. Think she was probably the most useless PM in my lifetime. I'm grimly sure the next one will be worse though!
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Old 12.12.2018, 09:00
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Bye bye Theresa. Think she was probably the most useless PM in my lifetime. I'm grimly sure the next one will be worse though!
I think there's a good chance she'll win and then lose the vote in Parliament in January. Tories will stuck with her for another year and it could very well split the party. Delicious.
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Old 12.12.2018, 09:02
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who in their right mind would want the job at the moment???
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Old 12.12.2018, 09:08
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Is Australia doing good? Yes. Is it part of the EU? No. Still, let's be honest here, the EU is a big falling protectionist market. Growth is very low, wages of the youth are low, population is in decline, and innovation lags behind the USA and China. The question here is that Brussels bureaucrats are spoiled brats who are trying to blackmail Britain for no reason. They should respect the democratic choice of the British people, sign a trade deal, and move on. No need to read up.
Why should the EU just "sign a trade deal" because the UK wants it to?

The EUs job is to protect its own members and not the interests of an ex member. The EU should only agree a deal if it is clearly to the benefit of the EU and its members.

Same with the backstop. The EUs obligation is to protect the interests of its member, the Republic of Ireland. Not the UK.

I see you, like many Brexiters, are incapable of grasping this.
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Solution to Irish border problem? I see three possibilities.

1. UK remains in EU,
2. Britain leaves the EU but remains in single market (without a say),
3. Build a wall between the North and the Republic. (Or introduce border controls such as those between CH and EU).

I drive frequently into France from Switzerland and the frontier is pretty transparent, at least to me. I know movement of goods is more restricted but I don’t see truck/lorry parks on either side.
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Solution to Irish border problem? I see three possibilities.

1. UK remains in EU,
2. Britain leaves the EU but remains in single market (without a say),
3. Build a wall between the North and the Republic. (Or introduce border controls such as those between CH and EU).

I drive frequently into France from Switzerland and the frontier is pretty transparent, at least to me. I know movement of goods is more restricted but I don’t see truck/lorry parks on either side.
Under WTO rules there would be no need to have a hard border. Both Ireland and the UK have said that in the event of a no deal Brexit they wouldn't erect a hard border. This is a load of bullshit that has been exploited by Ireland and the EU to gain leverage in the exit negotiations and the spastics in UK government fell for it hook line and sinker.
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Old 12.12.2018, 09:23
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Solution to Irish border problem? I see three possibilities.

1. UK remains in EU,
2. Britain leaves the EU but remains in single market (without a say),
3. Build a wall between the North and the Republic. (Or introduce border controls such as those between CH and EU).

I drive frequently into France from Switzerland and the frontier is pretty transparent, at least to me. I know movement of goods is more restricted but I don’t see truck/lorry parks on either side.
Switzerland is a relatively small country with a relatively large number of entry points. However if you use the main crossings - or even the smaller ones that process freight - you will still see a fair number of trucks waiting. Local to me I can usually see a decent number of trucks waiting much of the time at Schaanwald or Au. I've also often seen truck queues or pretty full parking at Chiasso and Konstanz. Not (usually) massive but they exist.

The UK is a much larger country with a relatively small number of entry points - one of which (Dover) completely dominates. Take all the Swiss entry points, multiply by about 4 times and you roughly have a Dover. Add into that the probability that Swiss processes are rather more efficient than the UK and you have probable chaos.
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Old 12.12.2018, 09:29
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Exciting times!

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Old 12.12.2018, 09:31
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Switzerland is a relatively small country with a relatively large number of entry points. However if you use the main crossings - or even the smaller ones that process freight - you will still see a fair number of trucks waiting. Local to me I can usually see a decent number of trucks waiting much of the time at Schaanwald or Au. I've also often seen truck queues or pretty full parking at Chiasso and Konstanz. Not (usually) massive but they exist.

The UK is a much larger country with a relatively small number of entry points - one of which (Dover) completely dominates. Take all the Swiss entry points, multiply by about 4 times and you roughly have a Dover. Add into that the probability that Swiss processes are rather more efficient than the UK and you have probable chaos.
also add to that a lot of freight moves across switzerland via rail, in the uk next to nothing is via rail.
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Old 12.12.2018, 09:57
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who in their right mind would want the job at the moment???
I reckon there's a list...a very short list. I also hope that yesterday, May was telling the other European leaders... "He's a dickhead. He's a dickhead. He's from the 18th Century, etc...."
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Old 12.12.2018, 10:37
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Hmm... Stephen Doughty (labour) seems to talk a fair amount of sense...
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Old 12.12.2018, 11:27
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What a very strange idea to change the governement at a time like this.
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Old 12.12.2018, 11:33
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The EUs job is to protect its own members and not the interests of an ex member. The EU should only agree a deal if it is clearly to the benefit of the EU and its members.
The EU always stands for the interests of its mebers now does it? I'm sure the Greeks will be pleased to hear that.
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What a very strange idea to change the governement at a time like this.
It would only be the leader, though. There was a rather good Tweet about it...

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It would only be the leader, though. There was a rather good Tweet about it...

They may have had a point if May had been elected in, as it was she became leader by default.
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Switzerland is a relatively small country with a relatively large number of entry points. However if you use the main crossings - or even the smaller ones that process freight - you will still see a fair number of trucks waiting. Local to me I can usually see a decent number of trucks waiting much of the time at Schaanwald or Au. I've also often seen truck queues or pretty full parking at Chiasso and Konstanz. Not (usually) massive but they exist
Some of the truck parking near border points has to do with limitations on night and Sunday movement of trucks in Switzerland.

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The UK is a much larger country with a relatively small number of entry points - one of which (Dover) completely dominates. Take all the Swiss entry points, multiply by about 4 times and you roughly have a Dover. Add into that the probability that Swiss processes are rather more efficient than the UK and you have probable chaos.

Switzerland is a transit country, with a lot of the freight going from say Italy to Germany having to pass through Switzerland. There are even coniderable freight flows from Northern Italy to the port of Rotterdam and indeed also reverse flows from Germany to Genua. Different ports having their special advantages for different destnations. The UK does not see much transit freight. There are direct ferries from the Continent to Ireland for example, so only limited numbers chose to drive through the UK. The British Ports handle mostly freight to or from Britain and very few trucks from British ports proceed to destinations in mainland Europe.
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They may have had a point if May had been elected in, as it was she became leader by default.
she won the 2017 general election, do keep up!
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she won the 2017 general election, do keep up!
Not two years ago she didn't. Right back at you.
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