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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Hardly a massive fee though- in the grand scale of things!

So the morons who are against the EU and the FRench, can't think of anything better than to copy the French - blocking Westminster bridge wearing yellow vests TW*TS.

Travelling to UK tomorrow - let's hope we will be able to get through Dartford Tunnel
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It's logical and makes sense. When they negotiated this deal the UK was a part of the EU, so they benefited from it. When they leave that should be taken into account. It shouldn't count for any other cases though, just those that the UK was benefiting from as part of the EU.
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Old 14.12.2018, 14:34
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And the GDP grew by how much during this period?
Less than the growth in debt
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Old 14.12.2018, 14:35
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Old 14.12.2018, 14:36
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Big news for us!

Switzerland has just announced that in the event of a no deal Brexit that they'll move to carry on exactly as before with a deal that could be signed theoretically they day after the UK leaves.

So much for the lip wobblers on here!

Federal Council lays the foundation for future economic and trade relations with the United Kingdom
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Big news for us!

Switzerland has just announced that in the event of a no deal Brexit that they'll move to carry on exactly as before with a deal that could be signed theoretically they day after the UK leaves.

So much for the lip wobblers on here!

Federal Council lays the foundation for future economic and trade relations with the United Kingdom
I love theoretically.

I remember when theoretically we held all the cards and Brexit would be a breeze. Such halcyon days.
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Old 14.12.2018, 14:43
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I love theoretically.

I remember when theoretically we held all the cards and Brexit would be a breeze. Such halcyon days.

the article has a much stronger statement than "theoretically".


See it on the positive side: a negotiated trade agreement with one of the richest countries in the world.
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Old 14.12.2018, 14:48
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the article has a much stronger statement than "theoretically".


See it on the positive side: a negotiated trade agreement with one of the richest countries in the world.
We'd better hope it's not a hard Brexit then otherwise it's all off the table.
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Old 14.12.2018, 14:50
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Big news for us!

Switzerland has just announced that in the event of a no deal Brexit that they'll move to carry on exactly as before with a deal that could be signed theoretically they day after the UK leaves.

So much for the lip wobblers on here!

Federal Council lays the foundation for future economic and trade relations with the United Kingdom
Sounds good to me.

It's not through yet though, don't overlook the details: <<Federal Council lays the foundation>>. TIS, still a lot of people to contact about it.
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We'd better hope it's not a hard Brexit then otherwise it's all off the table.
how so? The text of the document says exactly the opposite.
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We'd better hope it's not a hard Brexit then otherwise it's all off the table.

Better read the article. It's about an agreement in both a soft and a hard Brexit.


How many of such agreements would the UK actually need to make the EU deal irrelevant or not too relevant?
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Old 14.12.2018, 14:55
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how so? The text of the document says exactly the opposite.
For a soft Brexit the continuation proceeds under the Mind the Gap strategy and the agreements are still in place. So far so good.

I guess the subtlety was lost on some but...

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Sounds like there's an escape route planned into the no deal scenario. A lot of "ifs", "could be's" and "possibles".

I'm sure it'll all be fine, though...
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Old 14.12.2018, 14:57
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For a soft Brexit the continuation proceeds under the Mind the Gap strategy and the agreements are still in place. So far so good.

I guess the subtlety was lost on some but...



Sounds like there's an escape route planned into the no deal scenario. A lot of "ifs", "could be's" and "possibles".
No there's not. It's simply normal procedure in Swiss politics and decision making.
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That's ridiculous!

And if this is true: << the agreement includes a clause requiring Japan to seek EU approval if they wish to enter a similar or better deal with the UK>> it also tells a lot about EU.

Petty and childish. "You can be my friend but if you want to play with the neighbour's kid next door, who doesn't want to be with me, you have to ask me first".


What the hell. And we thought only the US is going Trumpian?
Not true, UK went Trumpian too, but for some reasons you're going out of your way to ignore that....
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Not true, UK went Trumpian too
How so?
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No there's not. It's simply normal procedure in Swiss politics and decision making.
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How so?
Well, starting with the Brexit campaign my dear....and the rest is or will be history. Those who try oh so hard to ignore all the Trumpian strategies used to take UK out of the EU and maintain a messy status quo in regards with current negotiations are for sure disingenuous.

I think not even the Remainers would be so upset if this BrExit would have been done properly and all for the good reasons.
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Well, starting with the Brexit campaign my dear....and the rest is or will be history.
Leaving the EU is in no way comparable to voting in a moron as President.

The only thing that is comparable is the non-stop howling we've had to endure from the losing sides since their respective votes who can't accept the result.
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Old 14.12.2018, 15:11
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That's ridiculous!

And if this is true: << the agreement includes a clause requiring Japan to seek EU approval if they wish to enter a similar or better deal with the UK>> it also tells a lot about EU.

Petty and childish. "You can be my friend but if you want to play with the neighbour's kid next door, who doesn't want to be with me, you have to ask me first".


What the hell. And we thought only the US is going Trumpian?
It is not really as simple as this!
UK is still part of the EU and so is still part of this deal; after Brexit Japan will lose ca. 14% of the value of the Japan/EU deal.
Another twist is if after Brexit Japanese companies manufacturing in UK lose their tariff free access to the EU then maybe they are better to move back to Japan and get tariff free access via the Japan/EU deal?

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There is an aspect of the EU-Japan trade agreement that could become important in the context of the UK's decision to leave the EU.
Although it is still unclear what form Brexit will eventually take, trade between the UK and the EU will be subject to more barriers than is currently the case. As trade agreements already concluded by the EU with other countries will then no longer apply to the UK, this means that the EU-Japan agreement will not apply to the UK either.
For Japan, this makes the agreement less attractive, as the market access to the UK will be closed.
The UK leaving the EU is estimated to reduce Japan's real GDP gains from the EU-Japan free trade agreement by 14%.23
On the other hand, the EU-Japan trade deal will help secure EU market access for Japanese firms now situated in the UK and using it as an export platform to serve the Single Market. The trade agreement can therefore be a backup for Japanese firms that now operate in the UK but will lose access to the Single Market after the UK leaves the EU.24
If these Japanese firms do not relocate to an EU27 country, they will have better market access to the EU out of Japan.
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Leaving the EU is in no way comparable to voting in a moron as President.

The only thing that is comparable is the non-stop howling we've had to endure from the losing sides since their respective votes who can't accept the result.
I'm not sure. You could probably draw more than a few parallels between Trump voters and Leave voters.
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