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I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Old 28.12.2018, 01:13
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Or they're becoming cumulatively poorer.
Or older and realizing queueing all night in December is seriously uncomfortable.
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Old 28.12.2018, 09:33
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Or older and realizing queueing all night in December is seriously uncomfortable.
Nah. That's all people, not just the relatively small number of idiots that queue all night.
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Old 28.12.2018, 10:04
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

The Next and Zara sales has been as popular as ever. https://metro.co.uk/2018/12/26/thoua...sales-8284063/
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Old 29.12.2018, 15:34
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The UK has spent more than £100m to charter ferries to ease “severe congestion” at Dover in the event of a no-deal Brexit, as the government ramps up its multi-billion contingency plans.

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Presumably this would be a recurring cost; not just a one-off?
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Old 29.12.2018, 15:57
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The UK has spent more than £100m to charter ferries to ease “severe congestion” at Dover in the event of a no-deal Brexit, as the government ramps up its multi-billion contingency plans.

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Presumably this would be a recurring cost; not just a one-off?
Since ferry services are not free, this will get charged to people using the ferries so likely zero cost to the taxpayer.
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Old 29.12.2018, 16:49
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Since ferry services are not free, this will get charged to people using the ferries so likely zero cost to the taxpayer.
The last time this happened was when the ash cloud from the Icelandic volcano grounded flights across Europe and the northern Atlantic. The government have a duty of care to repatriate British nationals if they are left stranded owing to an act of the government themselves.

During the ash cloud, the company I worked for chartered a fleet of coaches and sent them to various key business locations across Europe, in an effort to get as many of our business clients back to the UK as possible, particularly seeing as the ash cloud coincided with national rail strikes across France and Spain. This was done at zero cost to the clients, but proved to be seriously beneficial in boosting client loyalty.
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Old 29.12.2018, 17:18
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Since ferry services are not free, this will get charged to people using the ferries so likely zero cost to the taxpayer.
The Govt. are paying the the ferry companies to provide the service.
There is nothing in the newspaper article to indicate the ferry companies will refund the Govt. out of any income?
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Old 29.12.2018, 19:58
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The Govt. are paying the the ferry companies to provide the service.
There is nothing in the newspaper article to indicate the ferry companies will refund the Govt. out of any income?
Yes yet another expense to be deducted from the so called savings from the Brexit dividend - in fact with
HMG getting themselves seriously committed to forking out millions if not billions of pounds of taxpayers
money to setup their own Sat-nav system - that they would have otherwise have got on the cheap and
as an EU member state benefit - if the UK had voted to remain in the EU and therefore have remained
in the EU's Galileo sat-nav system project.

So where are the savings from leaving the EU ?
As all I see is extra cost to the British taxpayer thanks to Brexit !!
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Old 29.12.2018, 20:00
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Yes yet another expense to be deducted from the so called savings from the Brexit dividend - in fact with HMG getting themselves seriously committed to forking out millions if not billions of pounds of taxpayers money to setup their own Sat-nav system - that they would have otherwise have got on the cheap and as an EU
member state benefit if the UK had voted to remain in the EU and therefore have remained in the
EU's Galileo sat-nav system project.

So where are the savings from leaving the EU ?
As all I see is extra cost to the British taxpayer thanks to Brexit !!
No deal, no divorce payment so substantial savings in year 1.
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Old 29.12.2018, 20:03
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The last time this happened was when the ash cloud from the Icelandic volcano grounded flights across Europe and the northern Atlantic. The government have a duty of care to repatriate British nationals if they are left stranded owing to an act of the government themselves.

During the ash cloud, the company I worked for chartered a fleet of coaches and sent them to various key business locations across Europe, in an effort to get as many of our business clients back to the UK as possible, particularly seeing as the ash cloud coincided with national rail strikes across France and Spain. This was done at zero cost to the clients, but proved to be seriously beneficial in boosting client loyalty.
I'm surprised the recent eruption of Mount Etna in Sciily isn't becoming more of a hazard to air traffic
with the ash cloud that's creating.
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Old 29.12.2018, 20:07
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No deal, no divorce payment so substantial savings in year 1.
As usual FMF you avoid the question !!
and a no-deal is still classed as a what-if scenario in view of all the shenanigans going on in Westminster.
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Old 29.12.2018, 20:14
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As usual FMF you avoid the question !!
and a no-deal is still classed as a what-if scenario in view of all the shenanigans going on in Westminster.
No I answered it, it's not an answer you wish to hear as you are stuck in an echo chamber. No deal is the default scenario of A50, quite what you don't understand about that?
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No I answered it, it's not an answer you wish to hear as you are stuck in an echo chamber. No deal is the default scenario of A50, quite what you don't understand about that?
But as I pointed out before - a no deal is still a what-if ( and not a certainty ) scenario as I said
in my reply !!
Therefore sorry mate but still an extra cost, as you have to also factor in the possibility
of the Withdrawal Agreement or a Withdrawal Agreement being passed by Parliament.

And that's on top of other what-if's like another general election, a 2nd Referendum, etc, etc.

Which could all take time and add to the cost, cost, cost !!

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Old 29.12.2018, 21:59
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The UK has spent more than £100m to charter ferries to ease “severe congestion” at Dover in the event of a no-deal Brexit, as the government ramps up its multi-billion contingency plans.

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Presumably this would be a recurring cost; not just a one-off?
They behave as if hard Brexit were the Biafra war.

<<The French operator Brittany Ferries, the Danish company DFDS and the UK’s Seaborne Freight would step in to ease pressure on Dover in the event of no deal, allowing almost 4,000 more lorries a week to come and go.>>
Two EU countries?

This doesn't even make sense?! What exactly are they worried about? The EU no longer delivering? If so - what do they need more ferry crossings for?!

Well, the refugees hanging out in France will be pleased.
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They behave as if hard Brexit were the Biafra war.

<<The French operator Brittany Ferries, the Danish company DFDS and the UK’s Seaborne Freight would step in to ease pressure on Dover in the event of no deal, allowing almost 4,000 more lorries a week to come and go.>>
Two EU countries?

This doesn't even make sense?! What exactly are they worried about? The EU no longer delivering? If so - what do they need more ferry crossings for?!

Well, the refugees hanging out in France will be pleased.
They are worried about Customs delays in Calais and Dover so the number of trucks passing through per day will be reduced.
They open up alternative parallel routes to increase the number of trucks passing through per day.
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Senior Brexiteer, Liam Fox reckons there's only a 50/50 chance that the UK will not leave the
EU if Parliament rejects Theresa May's Withdrawal deal.

BBC News - Brexit chances are 50 -50 if May's deal is rejected says Liam Fox
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Since ferry services are not free, this will get charged to people using the ferries so likely zero cost to the taxpayer.
I doubt the supply chain will simply absorb the costs, especially at that level and repeatedly for the foreseeable future. It won’t be the tax-payer forking out for it; ultimately it will be the consumer.
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Old 31.12.2018, 11:33
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It won’t be the tax-payer forking out for it; ultimately it will be the consumer.
Tax payer = consumer
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Tax payer = consumer
Was thinking the same thing tbh
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It just gets better and better:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-ferry-service

"One of the companies contracted by the government to charter ferries in the event of a no-deal Brexit does not own any ships, has not previously operated a ferry service and is not planning to do so until close to the UK’s scheduled departure date from the European Union, it has emerged."

Maybe we should all start applying for Govt contracts. I don't have any planes, but happy to take £15m to provide contingency air travel come Brexit time.

Once more, Brexit in a nutshell.
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