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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Old 10.01.2019, 09:10
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Anything to do with Brexit?
Brexit is a strange beast which is many things to many people.
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Old 10.01.2019, 09:42
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I'd hesitate to label the word "referendum" ineligible.
Haha, I was hungry and I ate some letters.

Anyway, no Welsh speakers here. I'm afraid to repeat the experiment with Gaelic...
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Old 10.01.2019, 10:12
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Haven't done much adulting in your life then have you?


Just call your landlord and tell them you're leaving tomorrow then. Then your employer and finally your phone provider. Tell them you changed your mind and you're leaving and you don't owe them anything.
The difference is you gave the landlord money up front to build the house......
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Old 10.01.2019, 10:29
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The difference is you gave the landlord money up front to build the house......
Think you can walk out of a Genossenschaft apartment here from one day to the next?
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Old 10.01.2019, 10:39
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The difference is you gave the landlord money up front to build the house......
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Old 10.01.2019, 10:50
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The difference is you gave the landlord money up front to build the house......
I guess you are making a rather clumsy reference to the UK's original joining of the EEC (or EC or whatever it was at the time), but it still doesn't make a difference. Sure it was financed but it still doesn't mean they can walk away scot-free*. Yes, they might be able to shut down membership overnight with a hard Brexit but I'd be surprised if they manage it without some kind of financial penalty either directly or indirectly.

*no pun intended for the Scottish referendum.
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Old 10.01.2019, 11:11
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The difference is you gave the landlord money up front to build the house......
If you're trying to make an analogy here it doesn't work. There's no particular joining fee for the EU, only the subs you pay annually, just like the rent payment in your example. And when you leave you have to pay for the services etc. accrued while you were a member. Pension liabilities to pick one obvious example.
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Just call your landlord and tell them you're leaving tomorrow then. Then your employer and finally your phone provider. Tell them you changed your mind and you're leaving and you don't owe them anything.


Tell us how it plays out and if you get another job or apartment anytime soon.

Contrary to leaving an organization like the EU, all examples that you have mentioned have clearly defined termination conditions. That's a key difference.
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Old 10.01.2019, 11:35
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Contrary to leaving an organization like the EU, all examples that you have mentioned have clearly defined termination conditions. That's a key difference.
The Brexit farce in a nutshell.

Shame the government didn't have this in mind before they triggered the dog's dinner of a referendum.
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Old 10.01.2019, 11:37
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If you're trying to make an analogy here it doesn't work. There's no particular joining fee for the EU, only the subs you pay annually, just like the rent payment in your example. And when you leave you have to pay for the services etc. accrued while you were a member. Pension liabilities to pick one obvious example.
Let's see if it does work, hard BREXIT & we will find out.
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Old 10.01.2019, 11:43
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The Brexit farce in a nutshell.

Shame the government didn't have this in mind before they triggered the dog's dinner of a referendum.

The EU simply doesn't foresee an exit scenario, which is understandable as it is pretty complex. And UK is a relatively uncomplicated country, as it is not using the euro and not part of Schengen.


You can't blame a current government for it. The only ones to blame would be the governments at the time of joining or founding the EU.
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The EU simply doesn't foresee an exit scenario, which is understandable as it is pretty complex. And UK is a relatively uncomplicated country, as it is not using the euro and not part of Schengen.
Well clearly they do see an exit scenario otherwise there would be no Article 50.


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You can't blame a current government for it. The only ones to blame would be the governments at the time of joining or founding the EU.
No government in the UK either joined or founded the EU.
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No government in the UK either joined or founded the EU.
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The UK "joined" the EEC, not the EU. EU formed later out of the old EEC.
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No government in the UK either joined or founded the EU.

They did by ratifying the Maastricht Treaty.
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The UK "joined" the EEC, not the EU. EU formed later out of the old EEC.
If we never joined, no reason to pay a divorce bill
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If we never joined, no reason to pay a divorce bill
Sounds as good as any of the other bodged reasoning currently circulating around Westminster. I'm surprised JRM hasn't been bleating this to whoever will listen.
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A bit of light relief. This twitter thread had me in stitches last night

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Faisal Islam Retweeted Paul Owen
Who to send to negotiate when they arrive?

Faisal Islam added,

Paul OwenVerified account @PaulTOwen
This is it guys
159 replies 101 retweets 385 likes
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/stat...51711685038080
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Let's see if it does work, hard BREXIT & we will find out.
Totally agree.
Let's do this b***s!
Let's see which union will survive hard Brexit.
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swiss and UK have already signed their agreements
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