The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

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	Sandgrounder, were you trying to hint about the general views portrayed about certain religion based on the actions of a small minority?

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Anything to do with Brexit?

Brexit is a strange beast which is many things to many people.

[greenmount]

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	I'd hesitate to label the word "referendum" ineligible.

Haha, I was hungry and I ate some letters.

Anyway, no Welsh speakers here. I'm afraid to repeat the experiment with Gaelic...

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	Troublawesome
	Haven't done much adulting in your life then have you? Just call your landlord and tell them you're leaving tomorrow then. Then your employer and finally your phone provider. Tell them you changed your mind and you're leaving and you don't owe them anything.

The difference is you gave the landlord money up front to build the house......

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	The difference is you gave the landlord money up front to build the house......

Think you can walk out of a Genossenschaft apartment here from one day to the next?

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	The difference is you gave the landlord money up front to build the house......

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	The difference is you gave the landlord money up front to build the house......

I guess you are making a rather clumsy reference to the UK's original joining of the EEC (or EC or whatever it was at the time), but it still doesn't make a difference. Sure it was financed but it still doesn't mean they can walk away scot-free*. Yes, they might be able to shut down membership overnight with a hard Brexit but I'd be surprised if they manage it without some kind of financial penalty either directly or indirectly.

*no pun intended for the Scottish referendum.

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	The difference is you gave the landlord money up front to build the house......

If you're trying to make an analogy here it doesn't work. There's no particular joining fee for the EU, only the subs you pay annually, just like the rent payment in your example. And when you leave you have to pay for the services etc. accrued while you were a member. Pension liabilities to pick one obvious example.

[k_and_e]

	Quote:	Troublawesome
	Just call your landlord and tell them you're leaving tomorrow then. Then your employer and finally your phone provider. Tell them you changed your mind and you're leaving and you don't owe them anything. Tell us how it plays out and if you get another job or apartment anytime soon.

Contrary to leaving an organization like the EU, all examples that you have mentioned have clearly defined termination conditions. That's a key difference.

	Quote:	k_and_e
	Contrary to leaving an organization like the EU, all examples that you have mentioned have clearly defined termination conditions. That's a key difference.

The Brexit farce in a nutshell.

Shame the government didn't have this in mind before they triggered the dog's dinner of a referendum.

[fatmanfilms]

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	If you're trying to make an analogy here it doesn't work. There's no particular joining fee for the EU, only the subs you pay annually, just like the rent payment in your example. And when you leave you have to pay for the services etc. accrued while you were a member. Pension liabilities to pick one obvious example.

Let's see if it does work, hard BREXIT & we will find out.

[k_and_e]

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	The Brexit farce in a nutshell. Shame the government didn't have this in mind before they triggered the dog's dinner of a referendum.

The EU simply doesn't foresee an exit scenario, which is understandable as it is pretty complex. And UK is a relatively uncomplicated country, as it is not using the euro and not part of Schengen.


You can't blame a current government for it. The only ones to blame would be the governments at the time of joining or founding the EU.

	Quote:	k_and_e
	The EU simply doesn't foresee an exit scenario, which is understandable as it is pretty complex. And UK is a relatively uncomplicated country, as it is not using the euro and not part of Schengen.

Well clearly they do see an exit scenario otherwise there would be no Article 50.

	Quote:	k_and_e
	You can't blame a current government for it. The only ones to blame would be the governments at the time of joining or founding the EU.

No government in the UK either joined or founded the EU.

[fatmanfilms]

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	No government in the UK either joined or founded the EU.

	Quote:	fatmanfilms

The UK "joined" the EEC, not the EU. EU formed later out of the old EEC.

[k_and_e]

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	No government in the UK either joined or founded the EU.

They did by ratifying the Maastricht Treaty.

[fatmanfilms]

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	The UK "joined" the EEC, not the EU. EU formed later out of the old EEC.

If we never joined, no reason to pay a divorce bill

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	If we never joined, no reason to pay a divorce bill

Sounds as good as any of the other bodged reasoning currently circulating around Westminster. I'm surprised JRM hasn't been bleating this to whoever will listen.

[Blueangel]

A bit of light relief. This twitter thread had me in stitches last night

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	Faisal Islam‏Verified account @faisalislam 13h13 hours ago Faisal Islam Retweeted Paul Owen Who to send to negotiate when they arrive? Faisal Islam added, Paul OwenVerified account @PaulTOwen This is it guys 159 replies 101 retweets 385 likes

https://twitter.com/faisalislam/stat...51711685038080

[lewton]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Let's see if it does work, hard BREXIT & we will find out.

Totally agree.
Let's do this b***s!
Let's see which union will survive hard Brexit.

[hoslo]

swiss and UK have already signed their agreements