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I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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It's exactly the same, making 2 people 100% responsible for a debt, clever if people are stupid enough to do it.
You're conflating the issue to suit what you believe to be the case.

I chose to be on the rental agreement for our apartment because, whilst it does make me equally liable for the rent, it also protects my right to remain in the apartment should something happen to my partner. Simple!

The same applies in UK law. The last tenants for my house in the UK, chose to include the student son on the contract as equal tenant, even though he lived in Uni student digs during the week, and was only resident at weekends and holidays. The reason was that the single (divorced) mother was the main resident with her young daughter, but she was recovering from chemo for her second incidence of cancer. Having her son on the tenancy protected the right to remain should things take a turn for the worse. As I allow pets, there was also a secondary agreement which stated the names of the pets.

This in no way relates to the law regarding women's rights in the UK prior to the 1970s.

As an example, my grandmother owned and ran a business throughout the 1950s-early 1970s. My grandfather was guarantor for everything, even though he didn't put a single penny into the business and played no part in it's running. All the set up costs came from my grandmother's inheritance. It always annoyed her that she needed a man to sign for everything, and this made her a driving force behind my mum when my dad died in 1983 and she took over his business.
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Old 12.01.2019, 17:32
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If you knowingly allow someone over 18 in the UK to reside in a property they can become a sitting Tennant, so it's important to have them on the lease if you know of their existence.

In Ch I am amazed it was your choice to be on the lease rather than a requirement of the landlord. If your married their is no benefit to being on the lease.

UK landlord Fergas Wilson has some interesting letting requirements refusing any of the following:- It's a free country he can do what he wants with his property.

Those with children under 18-years-old
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Tenants on housing benefit
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You're conflating the issue to suit what you believe to be the case.

I chose to be on the rental agreement for our apartment because, whilst it does make me equally liable for the rent, it also protects my right to remain in the apartment should something happen to my partner. Simple!

The same applies in UK law. The last tenants for my house in the UK, chose to include the student son on the contract as equal tenant, even though he lived in Uni student digs during the week, and was only resident at weekends and holidays. The reason was that the single (divorced) mother was the main resident with her young daughter, but she was recovering from chemo for her second incidence of cancer. Having her son on the tenancy protected the right to remain should things take a turn for the worse. As I allow pets, there was also a secondary agreement which stated the names of the pets.

This in no way relates to the law regarding women's rights in the UK prior to the 1970s.

As an example, my grandmother owned and ran a business throughout the 1950s-early 1970s. My grandfather was guarantor for everything, even though he didn't put a single penny into the business and played no part in it's running. All the set up costs came from my grandmother's inheritance. It always annoyed her that she needed a man to sign for everything, and this made her a driving force behind my mum when my dad died in 1983 and she took over his business.
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Old 12.01.2019, 17:35
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In this specific example you're mixing things up.

A married couple that does not have any special (financial) contract, lives in joint property. (In Switzerland anyway).

None of them can make depts without the other's signature. That's marital law though.
Of course married couples can run up their own credit card bills & don't need 2 signatures to make every purchase.
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Old 12.01.2019, 17:47
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Of course married couples can run up their own credit card bills & don't need 2 signatures to make every purchase.
I'm sorry you're bored today.

As we talk about anything on the Brexit thead, can someone tell me on which thread JagWaugh advised me to use a switch for my downstairs/upstairs internet connection? Can't find it.
Maybe someone remembers before people go back to .... what was it? Ahh, Brexit referendum.

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It's a free country he can do what he wants with his property.
Nope, he still has to comply with the law. What do you think would happen if he made it clear he refused to rent to blacks, or Jews, for example?
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Old 12.01.2019, 19:19
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Nope, he still has to comply with the law. What do you think would happen if he made it clear he refused to rent to blacks, or Jews, for example?
Just google him. Christ, what a moron. Tabloid fodder, and constantly fighting discrimination claims in court.

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Old 12.01.2019, 20:25
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For all Jeremy Clarkson's fans: (typo edit)

https://www.facebook.com/LBC/videos/889340144734135/
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Old 12.01.2019, 20:31
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Who is Jeremey Clarke?

Tom
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Old 12.01.2019, 20:43
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Who is Jeremey Clarke?

Tom
How you not yet noticed, that us outsiders only understand about every 5th post on this particular thread?

He's a very British guy obviously, he calls people names.
While the viedo bit was neither informative nor productive it was obviously worth publishing on your tube and even on EF.
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Old 12.01.2019, 21:32
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Chris Grayling has inadvertantly labelled 17-odd million Leave voters as potential right-wing extremists, which should be entertaining when they figure it out...
Whilst reading about this story earlier today, including this blistering insight from Joanne Cherry QC MP...
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UK Govt say #SeaborneFreight contract awarded outwith normal procurement rules because of “extreme urgency” brought about by “unforeseeable events”. But Minister confirms #NoDeal #Brexit was foreseen ages ago & can’t say what unforeseen events were #ferrygate

https://twitter.com/joannaccherry/st...96064179970053

...I got distracted by this comment from an old favourite of mine, Larry The Cat
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I generally find that if you have a choice between doing something that annoys facists and not doing something that annoys fascists, you should do the thing that annoys facists.

Larry the Cat added,

ITV NewsVerified account @itvnews


Blocking Brexit could “open the door” to “extremist” populist political forces in the UK, Transport Secretary Chris Grayling has warned https://bit.ly/2M5d6tA

4:17 AM - 12 Jan 2019
https://twitter.com/Number10cat/stat...61720669233152 ...and wandered long into this feline political World which led me to this great Brexit visualisation...





https://twitter.com/Number10cat/stat...47978629062656

...and to a wonderful piece of Geekdom, totally unconnected to Brexit...

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He's making a list,


And checking it twice,

Gonna find out

Who's naughty and nice.

Santa Claus is contravening GDPR.

1:39 AM - 21 Dec 2018
https://twitter.com/number10cat/stat...460032?lang=en
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I've been meaning to ask this question long ago but I forget. I would like to read or listen to levelheaded Brexiteers with impressive credentials. I'm thinking more of a uni professor or this type of people. Could someone here point me into the right direction?

I read The Economist usually but they don't seem to support Brexit. I'm not mentioning this as an anti-Brexit argument, just wanting to show I'm not extremely lazy. Maybe I'm missing something.
The absence of any answer to your request is in itself educational....
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The absence of any answer to your request is in itself educational....
Although in a minority, there are a group of academics in support of Brexit.

Briefings for Brexit is their portal for their reasoned arguments and commentary. Current editors are:

Dr Graham Gudgin, Economist, Centre for Business Research, Judge Business School, University of Cambridge. Posts by Dr Graham Gudgin

Professor Robert Tombs, Emeritus Professor of French History, University of Cambridge. Posts by Professor Robert Tombs
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UK MP's call on the government to clarify its recent trade deal and other arrangements including
those affecting citizens rights in their UK - Swiss Trade deal.


BBC News - Basic questions unanswered on Swiss trade deal

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Sir Humphrey Appleby lives !! - reincarnated as Brexit Secretary, Stephen Barclay MP

Yes those rumours that the Brexit Secretary has honed his waffling opinion on all matters Brexit are true.
For those Expats who loved Yes Minister and wondered whether this happens in real life, should replay
Sunday's edition of The Andrew Marr Show and fast forward to 10:25 on BBC I-Player where the waffling
and the never giving a straight answer to a question from Marr begins.
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Oh yes, waffle, waffle and cheese. Did this idiot really think he would become PM? The other day he was talking about Mars Bars and Cheese and Onion flavour crisps being the only things he could guarantee. He has surely flipped his lid !

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top...Sy97_sY4a1XdQM

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Oh yes, waffle, waffle and cheese. Did this idiot really thought he would become PM? The other day he was talking about Mars Bars and Cheese and Onion flavour crisps being the only things he could guarantee. He has surely flipped his lid !

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top...Sy97_sY4a1XdQM
Well DC made it and then sold us down the river. Hope for all.
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Nope, he still has to comply with the law. What do you think would happen if he made it clear he refused to rent to blacks, or Jews, for example?
He is compiling with the law so yes it's a free country. He also avoids people who might cook a lot of curry as it makes the place smell.
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He is compiling with the law so yes it's a free country. He also avoids people who might cook a lot of curry as it makes the place smell.
Eh?

A court hearing ruled his ban (not ‘avoids’ as you wrote) was unlawful therefore he can’t be ‘complying’ with the law, can he? It’s not hard to google him - he’s been in and out of court like any other common two-bit criminal.

It always amuses me that those people who bang on about ‘it’s a free country’ are the first to whine when they find out that, actually, they have to follow the same rules and laws as everyone else
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He also avoids people who might cook a lot of curry as it makes the place smell.
But that's me. Does he also ask to smell their farts?

I finally got around to watching 'Brexit: The Uncivil War' this afternoon. Oooo! I know it's a drama, but it's still a lesson to us all in so many ways. Has anyone else watched it?
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Saw it just now, I didn't learn anything new and I doubt anyone from either side would have their mind changed either.



Probably depicted Leavers as a bit more intelligent than probably are, Boris included.
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