The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH - Page 829

3Wishes · #**16561** 16.01.2019, 22:30

	Quote:	Belgianmum
	And she just manages to hang on in there.

After watching some of the debate, might stick with May too.

She seems to have a head on her shoulders, whereas Corbyn seems unhinged.

#**16562** 16.01.2019, 22:46

	Quote:	3Wishes
	After watching some of the debate, might stick with May too. She seems to have a head on her shoulders, whereas Corbyn seems unhinged.

It’s probably played a part in the government surviving the no-confidence vote. If the Labour party had someone even half decent, May would be on the way to fighting a General Election by now.

Troublawesome · #**16563** 16.01.2019, 22:48

	Quote:	Blueangel
	...and she's giving a speech from Downing Street at 22:03 apparently. Hope Larry the Cat makes an appearance. #LarryforPM

Source?

Blueangel · #**16564** 16.01.2019, 22:53

	Quote:	Troublawesome
	Source?

	Quote:
	Larry the Cat‏ @Number10cat Larry the Cat Retweeted Laura Kuenssberg At least 80% of the audience will be tuning in to see if I’m walking around in the background... Larry the Cat added, Laura KuenssbergVerified account @bbclaurak PM will make a statement live in Downing Street at 10pm 1:11 PM - 16 Jan 2019

https://twitter.com/Number10cat/stat...45802096054273

Blueangel · #**16565** 16.01.2019, 23:05

Oooo! Serious shade thrown at Corbyn.

#**16566** 17.01.2019, 07:32

	Quote:	Blueangel
	Oooo! Serious shade thrown at Corbyn.

If we are judging by sick burns, then I guess Tom Watson should be in charge soon.

fatmanfilms · #**16567** 17.01.2019, 08:41

Looks like Germany is in a recession & BREXIT has not even happened, Germany needs a deal even if the UK does not

https://www.businessinsider.com/germ...F2a0&r=US&IR=T

#**16568** 17.01.2019, 09:02

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Looks like Germany is in a recession & BREXIT has not even happened, Germany needs a deal even if the UK does not https://www.businessinsider.com/germ...F2a0&r=US&IR=T

America sneezes and the world catches a cold. Nobody is immune.

#**16569** 17.01.2019, 09:15

I wonder how twitchy the Queen is knowing she can put this whole thing out of its misery with a wave of her hand. Maybe she'll treat herself to a swansong after keeping stumm all these years of her reign?

#**16570** 17.01.2019, 09:22

	Quote:
	I wonder how twitchy the Queen is knowing she can put this whole thing out of its misery with a wave of her hand. Maybe she'll treat herself to a swansong after keeping stumm all these years of her reign?

Haha, maybe she's happy with Brexit. Gives her an excuse not to visit the relatives.

curley · #**16571** 17.01.2019, 09:31

	Quote:
	I wonder how twitchy the Queen is knowing she can put this whole thing out of its misery with a wave of her hand. Maybe she'll treat herself to a swansong after keeping stumm all these years of her reign?

Funny, I've been wondering this for a while now but figured she had no say.

Your post sounds like she does - so what exactly could she do?

greenmount · #**16572** 17.01.2019, 09:35

	Quote:
	I wonder how twitchy the Queen is knowing she can put this whole thing out of its misery with a wave of her hand. Maybe she'll treat herself to a swansong after keeping stumm all these years of her reign?

I think it's a good strategy. It reinforces the idea that monarchy is much more dignified than common politics (and let's face it - it's true)...:-)

#**16573** 17.01.2019, 09:38

	Quote:	curley
	Funny, I've been wondering this for a while now but figured she had no say. Your post sounds like she does - so what exactly could she do?

Literally whatever she wants.

Well, maybe not everything...

	Quote:
	With no apparent parliamentary majority for any single course of action - is it time to get the Queen involved? In Britain's constitutional monarchy, this is not meant to happen. Her Majesty has always remained above the political fray and will, no doubt, want to stay that way. But she is the only person who can invite someone to form a government and become prime minister. And if Theresa May loses a no-confidence vote in the Commons, then this power could come into play. There will be a 14-day period during which the Queen could ask someone to form a new government if it was clear they could command the confidence of the House. That could be Labour or another Conservative government or a cross-party government. The Queen would not be able to exercise her own political judgement - everything would depend on whether the would-be new prime minister is deemed to have a realistic chance of getting their laws through Parliament. The nightmare scenario, for the Queen and her advisers, is where it's not clear who has the best chance of winning a confidence vote but different people are making competing claims. If after 14 days, a new government cannot gain MPs' confidence, a general election will follow. There could be multiple confidence votes, or none, before the 14-day deadline. One thing the Queen can't do is dissolve Parliament and trigger a general election. The monarch was stripped of that power by the 2011 Fixed-term Parliament Act.

PanFastic · #**16574** 17.01.2019, 09:50

This made me laugh this morning. So true.

#**16575** 17.01.2019, 09:53

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Looks like Germany is in a recession & BREXIT has not even happened, Germany needs a deal even if the UK does not https://www.businessinsider.com/germ...F2a0&r=US&IR=T

Actually it is not and the figures have a lot to do with China and nothing much to do with Brexit
https://www.wsj.com/articles/germany...th-11547545471

Just to remind you. Brexit still hasn't actually happened. For the next couple of months it will, if anything, tend to have a positive effect as people and companies are currently stockpiling stuff in anticipation of a bad outcome, either in terms of import delays or import charges. This will be paid for after March regardless of the outcome when the corresponding is satisfied out of inventory rather than purchases.

curley · #**16576** 17.01.2019, 10:08

	Quote:
	Literally whatever she wants. Well, maybe not everything...

Thanks.
Re Brexit she has no say then.

Does she have an opinion? Well, I'm sure she does but does anyone know what kind?

#**16577** 17.01.2019, 10:10

	Quote:	curley
	Thanks. Re Brexit she has no say then. Does she have an opinion? Well, I'm sure she does but does anyone know what kind?

Depends what tabloid you subscribe to. "Sources close to the palace" have divulged the whole spectrum of her being for Brexit and dead against it.

k_and_e · #**16578** 17.01.2019, 10:12

	Quote:
	Actually it is not and the figures have a lot to do with China and nothing much to do with Brexit https://www.wsj.com/articles/germany...th-11547545471

FMF didn't imply that the current possible recession is related to Brexit. He wrote that it may be a recession before Brexit has even happened.

lewton · #**16579** 17.01.2019, 11:12

	Quote:	k_and_e
	FMF didn't imply that the current possible recession is related to Brexit. He wrote that it may be a recession before Brexit has even happened.

And he also wrote that Germany might need a deal with the UK because of this "recession".
So how does his whole post hold together if he knows that the "recession" is not related to Brexit?

amogles · #**16580** 17.01.2019, 11:26

	Quote:	3Wishes
	After watching some of the debate, might stick with May too. She seems to have a head on her shoulders, whereas Corbyn seems unhinged.

I was thinking the same. The Tories are divided. Their leadership is weak. They don't seem to know what they want. In other words, all the pins are nicely aligned. This must be the sort of once in a lifetime situation that an opposition leader must dream about, But Corbyn seems unable to make much capital out of it.

Teresa May must be thanking him secretly.