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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Old 17.01.2019, 11:28
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Does she have an opinion? Well, I'm sure she does but does anyone know what kind?
She is not amused.
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Old 17.01.2019, 11:36
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Teresa May must be thanking him secretly.
No democracy can survive for long where there isn't a strong and effective opposition. It leads to tyranny which isn't good for anyone.
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Old 17.01.2019, 11:47
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She is not amused.
Didn't think I'd ever have something in common with the English queen.
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Old 17.01.2019, 11:50
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She is not amused.
I sure as hell am!

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Old 17.01.2019, 11:57
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I sure as hell am!

Tom
Yeah, now that you mention it.
It kind of depends on my "mood of the day".
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Old 17.01.2019, 13:57
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And he also wrote that Germany might need a deal with the UK because of this "recession".
So how does his whole post hold together if he knows that the "recession" is not related to Brexit?

well, you don't want to have a recession and a economical chaos on top of it, because that may make it worse. is that so hard to understand?
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Old 17.01.2019, 14:50
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She is not amused.
They are not amused, surely?!!!
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Old 17.01.2019, 14:53
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Didn't think I'd ever have something in common with the English queen.
There hasn't been an English queen since 1707.
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Old 17.01.2019, 14:58
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America sneezes and the world catches a cold. Nobody is immune.
UK has not caught this cold, although the Brits are buying less German cars.
Lets have a hard BREXIT & in 6 months see if the EU's attitude has changed.
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Old 17.01.2019, 15:09
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UK has not caught this cold, although the Brits are buying less German cars.
Buying less cars total, certainly, market was down almost 7% in 2018. But most of the main German brands out-performed the market. Only Audi were below average, VW, BMW and MB all better.
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Old 17.01.2019, 15:10
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Corbyn's sent a letter to No.10. The cat ate it.

WTF is wrong with that man? If he can't front up to Tessie May, he'd be buggered on the world stage.
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Old 17.01.2019, 16:14
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No democracy can survive for long where there isn't a strong and effective opposition. It leads to tyranny which isn't good for anyone.
Which (reasonably large) party is the opposition in the country you live in?
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Old 17.01.2019, 16:49
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Which (reasonably large) party is the opposition in the country you live in?
De facto it's the SVP.
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Old 17.01.2019, 16:57
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De facto it's the SVP.
LOL. SVP is a governing party, they even have 2 (two) Bundesräte.
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Old 17.01.2019, 16:59
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LOL. SVP is a governing party, they even have 2 (two) Bundesräte.
So? They still act like an opposition much of the time.
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So? They still act like an opposition much of the time.
Don't be fooled by the glut of Volksinitiativen. They publicly act as if, it's how they get their votes but that's just a publicity stunt. In practice they cooperate with the SP when it suits them just as easily as they do with the FDP.


In a two-groups system, where the majority group forms the government, the minority has no say in the outcome. There's no such opposition here because the groupings change by issue.
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Old 17.01.2019, 17:36
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In a two-groups system, where the majority group forms the government, the minority has no say in the outcome. There's no such opposition here because the groupings change by issue.
So there is no designated and formnalized oppopsition, but there is ad hoc opposition.

So Switzerland does have opposition. Only that it doesn't neatly fit in a box.
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Old 17.01.2019, 17:58
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Oh I do wish Lizzie would say, ah well nothing to lose now. So I'll put my foot down with a firm hand and tell them 'Theresa and Jeremy - on the naughty step NOW- and I'll sort this mess out- don't come out until I give you permission'

She must be so embarrassed and ashamed al the whole debacle and mess.
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Old 17.01.2019, 18:02
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So? They still act like an opposition much of the time.
In this country each citizen does much of the time. We call it our system.

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Don't be fooled by the glut of Volksinitiativen. They publicly act as if, it's how they get their votes but that's just a publicity stunt. In practice they cooperate with the SP when it suits them just as easily as they do with the FDP........
Actually so do I. As I decide depending on the subject, this is inevitable. Yet always coincidence, so if a party claims I "went with them" they're dreaming.

Don't you?

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So there is no designated and formnalized oppopsition, but there is ad hoc opposition.

So Switzerland does have opposition. Only that it doesn't neatly fit in a box.
In a country with a golden rule to make sure all larger parties are in the Bundesrat .....

What kind of opposition fits neatly in a box? Isn't that a contradiction?
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Old 17.01.2019, 18:25
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There hasn't been an English queen since 1707.
plenty of drama queens.
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