The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[amogles]

	Quote:	curley
	Does she have an opinion? Well, I'm sure she does but does anyone know what kind?

She is not amused.

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	amogles
	Teresa May must be thanking him secretly.

No democracy can survive for long where there isn't a strong and effective opposition. It leads to tyranny which isn't good for anyone.

[curley]

	Quote:	amogles
	She is not amused.

Didn't think I'd ever have something in common with the English queen.

[st2lemans]

	Quote:	amogles
	She is not amused.

I sure as hell am!

Tom

[curley]

	Quote:	st2lemans
	I sure as hell am! Tom

Yeah, now that you mention it.
It kind of depends on my "mood of the day".

[k_and_e]

	Quote:	lewton
	And he also wrote that Germany might need a deal with the UK because of this "recession". So how does his whole post hold together if he knows that the "recession" is not related to Brexit?

well, you don't want to have a recession and a economical chaos on top of it, because that may make it worse. is that so hard to understand?

	Quote:	amogles
	She is not amused.

They are not amused, surely?!!!

	Quote:	curley
	Didn't think I'd ever have something in common with the English queen.

There hasn't been an English queen since 1707.

[fatmanfilms]

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	America sneezes and the world catches a cold. Nobody is immune.

UK has not caught this cold, although the Brits are buying less German cars.
Lets have a hard BREXIT & in 6 months see if the EU's attitude has changed.

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	UK has not caught this cold, although the Brits are buying less German cars.

Buying less cars total, certainly, market was down almost 7% in 2018. But most of the main German brands out-performed the market. Only Audi were below average, VW, BMW and MB all better.

[Blueangel]

Corbyn's sent a letter to No.10. The cat ate it.

WTF is wrong with that man? If he can't front up to Tessie May, he'd be buggered on the world stage.

[Urs Max]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	No democracy can survive for long where there isn't a strong and effective opposition. It leads to tyranny which isn't good for anyone.

Which (reasonably large) party is the opposition in the country you live in?

	Quote:	Urs Max
	Which (reasonably large) party is the opposition in the country you live in?

De facto it's the SVP.

[curley]

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	De facto it's the SVP.

LOL. SVP is a governing party, they even have 2 (two) Bundesräte.

	Quote:	curley
	LOL. SVP is a governing party, they even have 2 (two) Bundesräte.

So? They still act like an opposition much of the time.

[Urs Max]

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	So? They still act like an opposition much of the time.

Don't be fooled by the glut of Volksinitiativen. They publicly act as if, it's how they get their votes but that's just a publicity stunt. In practice they cooperate with the SP when it suits them just as easily as they do with the FDP.


In a two-groups system, where the majority group forms the government, the minority has no say in the outcome. There's no such opposition here because the groupings change by issue.

[amogles]

	Quote:	Urs Max
	In a two-groups system, where the majority group forms the government, the minority has no say in the outcome. There's no such opposition here because the groupings change by issue.

So there is no designated and formnalized oppopsition, but there is ad hoc opposition.

So Switzerland does have opposition. Only that it doesn't neatly fit in a box.

Oh I do wish Lizzie would say, ah well nothing to lose now. So I'll put my foot down with a firm hand and tell them 'Theresa and Jeremy - on the naughty step NOW- and I'll sort this mess out- don't come out until I give you permission'

She must be so embarrassed and ashamed al the whole debacle and mess.

[curley]

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	So? They still act like an opposition much of the time.

In this country each citizen does much of the time. We call it our system.

	Quote:	Urs Max
	Don't be fooled by the glut of Volksinitiativen. They publicly act as if, it's how they get their votes but that's just a publicity stunt. In practice they cooperate with the SP when it suits them just as easily as they do with the FDP........

Actually so do I. As I decide depending on the subject, this is inevitable. Yet always coincidence, so if a party claims I "went with them" they're dreaming.

Don't you?

	Quote:	amogles
	So there is no designated and formnalized oppopsition, but there is ad hoc opposition. So Switzerland does have opposition. Only that it doesn't neatly fit in a box.

In a country with a golden rule to make sure all larger parties are in the Bundesrat .....

What kind of opposition fits neatly in a box? Isn't that a contradiction?

[amogles]

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	There hasn't been an English queen since 1707.

plenty of drama queens.