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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Old 17.01.2019, 20:36
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plenty of drama queens.
Most of them squawking in parliament, right?
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Old 17.01.2019, 20:50
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There hasn't been an English queen since 1707.
That explains it then
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Old 17.01.2019, 20:52
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Did you hear that the Greek Prince married to our German Queen, aged 97- had a car crash near Sheringham today?

This Mhairi has got b*lls - and here is a video to practise your Scottish accent. she says just what I am thinking about Corbyn at the moment:

https://www.facebook.com/theSNP/videos/300826463962295/
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Old 17.01.2019, 23:48
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Oh go on Lizzie, PLEASE - go out with a BANG and tell them what you think:

Please our gracious Queen, use your Royal Prerogative, and tell them what you think. Bravo.

https://youtu.be/kSy8iAbk6kI
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No deal Brexit here we come, parliament just aren’t going to be able to get their shit together to prevent it

Corbyn could face string of resignations if he backs 'people's vote'
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Old 18.01.2019, 00:01
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No deal Brexit here we come, parliament just aren’t going to be able to get their shit together to prevent it

Corbyn could face string of resignations if he backs 'people's vote'
Despite Phillip Hammond schmoozing business leaders with the assurance that No Deal will be taken off the table?
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Despite Phillip Hammond schmoozing business leaders with the assurance that No Deal will be taken off the table?
Yup, no deal is the default outcome of the UKs incapable politicians being able to agree with one another. Delicious.
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Old 18.01.2019, 06:24
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I think it's a good strategy. It reinforces the idea that monarchy is much more dignified than common politics (and let's face it - it's true)...:-)
If all protocol and no real life is what it translates into..
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Old 18.01.2019, 09:07
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Yup, no deal is the default outcome of the UKs incapable politicians being able to agree with one another. Delicious.
Bodes well for the future.
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Old 18.01.2019, 10:29
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

If you want to see what is really happening, how‘s about this. I attended the talk in Zürich last night where it was said everything is in place with Switzerland for both deal and no deal. No need to worry.

This morning the FT posted that no trade deals are ready with Switzerland being part of the 70% of UK trade which isn‘t ready.

I tried to comment to explain their mistake.

I was deleted twice and put on pending afterwards.

It’s abundantly clear that the press and parliament are trying to derail BREXIT.
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Old 18.01.2019, 10:34
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Maybe the person at the talk was incorrect or lying?
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Old 18.01.2019, 10:40
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If you want to see what is really happening, how‘s about this. I attended the talk in Zürich last night where it was said everything is in place with Switzerland for both deal and no deal. No need to worry.

This morning the FT posted that no trade deals are ready with Switzerland being part of the 70% of UK trade which isn‘t ready.

I tried to comment to explain their mistake.

I was deleted twice and put on pending afterwards.

It’s abundantly clear that the press and parliament are trying to derail BREXIT.
The fact that there is absolutely nothing in place for any scenario apart from No Deal, where all deals are off, should speak volumes for the person that told you that "everything is in place" concerning Switzerland and the UK.

It's unlikely that UK citizens already settled in Switzerland on permanent contracts and in relationships will get kicked out, even in the event of a no deal, but it is likely to affect people from the UK wanting to move here post-Brexit.

I'd say the person you were talking to was a bit over-confident and overly-optimistic.
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Old 18.01.2019, 10:41
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justpassingby, perhaps you could enlighten us as to what will happen in the event of a deal or in the event of a no deal. That would be a helpful post.
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Old 18.01.2019, 10:57
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The fact that there is absolutely nothing in place for any scenario apart from No Deal, where all deals are off, should speak volumes for the person that told you that "everything is in place" concerning Switzerland and the UK.

It's unlikely that UK citizens already settled in Switzerland on permanent contracts and in relationships will get kicked out, even in the event of a no deal, but it is likely to affect people from the UK wanting to move here post-Brexit.

I'd say the person you were talking to was a bit over-confident and overly-optimistic.

the Swiss have prepared themselves pretty well. see also this article in our favorite news source: https://www.thelocal.ch/20190116/swi...itizens-rights
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Old 18.01.2019, 11:12
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According to an internal memo in Whitehall, UK has failed to replicate almost all of the EU’s 40 existing trade agreements and they will not be near completion by March 29.

Liam Fox, the international trade secretary, and other Brexit campaigners had claimed they would be easy to copy and all be ready before UK left the EU. Fox had said "believe me they will all be ready for one second after midnight in March 2019"

BTW the the same ft article mentions the completed deal with Switzerland.

source (might be behind a paywall).
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Old 18.01.2019, 11:17
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the Swiss have prepared themselves pretty well. see also this article in our favorite news source: https://www.thelocal.ch/20190116/swi...itizens-rights
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If you want to see what is really happening, how‘s about this. I attended the talk in Zürich last night where it was said everything is in place with Switzerland for both deal and no deal. No need to worry.
The article you linked is peppered with "provisional" and "preparations for" and "preliminary approvals" type non-committal language.

Just pointing out that it's not a fait accompli yet, which seems to be what justpassingby's Brexit talk was all about.

Devil's in the detail, devil's in the detail...
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This, however:



Is not this...



The article you linked is peppered with "provisional" and "preparations for" and "preliminary approvals" type non-committal language.

Just pointing out that it's not a fait accompli yet, which seems to be what justpassingby's Brexit talk was all about.

Devil's in the detail, devil's in the detail...

Yes, I agree. Deals have not been agreed but they have been prepared very well.
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

The talk was with the British Ambassador and representatives of the Swiss and English departments for Brexit.

They said the details are on their websites. I‘d have to find them.

Gov.uk and British embassy for Switzerland.

They said deal and no deal are covered in their talks.

Sure they can lie as can everyone (who are stretching the truth continually)

Brexit is very emotional but last night was very calm and factual.

I recommend going to a roadshow if you get the chance.

Just my opinion
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the Swiss have prepared themselves pretty well. see also this article in our favorite news source: https://www.thelocal.ch/20190116/swi...itizens-rights
Instead of relying on "the Local" you could get information directly from the Swiss governement. But maybe not on Friday as that would spoil the fun?

eda.admin.ch
use the links on that page as well.

https://www.fdfa.admin.ch/dam/dea/en...-Brexit_en.pdf
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Just pointing out that it's not a fait accompli yet, which seems to be what justpassingby's Brexit talk was all about.
Of course not, the UK can't conclude any deals while still in the EU.
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