The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[Tom1234]

	Quote:	Fish Paste
	Now anything can happen, referendum, GE, Article 50 extension, Article 50 cancelled, May could resign, EU elections. In Merkel’s words, it’s a shitstorm. Makes me proud to be British.

Trying to leave the EU in two years with all boxes ticked was an impossible task.

What the U.K. is doing in leaving the EU is unprecedented. I bet the figure of two years was plucked from the air by some Brussels minion.

Theresa May and the current government are doing as well as expected. I'm not sure how they could have done better within the time frame given.

[Urs Max]

	Quote:	Odile
	She didn't give an opinion - but just facts. OH is 73, and has more brains than a lot of young people I know, for sure.

Actually she doesn't. Simply because she leaves out the main parts of the equation.

She presents being for Brexit as a function of age. Old people die, presumably the majority thereof Leavers, while young people come of age, replacing them predominantly with Remainers. However she ignores all the people in between, who also grow older and thereby, according to her logic, keep trending towards Leave.

To cut a long story short and negate her silly calculation:
Overall the population gets older therefore, under her arse-umption, it trends towards Leave. Since the vote Leave has grown rather than shrunk. She may have had more brains but if anything this Milchmädchenrechnung is proof to the contrary.

[Fish Paste]

	Quote:	Tom1234
	Theresa May and the current government are doing as well as expected. I'm not sure how they could have done better within the time frame given.

Agreed.
Hence the Brexiteers should have taken the deal.

[marton]

There were so many lies told before the referendum the following is just of historical interest!

Boris Johnson has wrongly claimed that he “didn’t make any remarks about Turkey, mate” during the EU referendum campaign, in comments that overshadowed a speech in Staffordshire intended to burnish his leadership credentials.

One of the many examples otherwise; A week before referendum day in June 2016, Johnson and Michael Gove wrote a joint letter to David Cameron claiming that the government supported the idea of Turkish membership of the EU. “The public will draw the reasonable conclusion that the only way to avoid having common borders with Turkey is to vote leave and take back control on 23 June,” the letter stated.

Source

[st2lemans]

Tom

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	marton
	Boris Johnson has wrongly claimed that he “didn’t make any remarks about Turkey, mate” during the EU referendum campaign, in comments that overshadowed a speech in Staffordshire intended to burnish his leadership credentials.

Is that shorthand for "lied through his effing teeth"?

It was the most ridiculous, bumbling speech I've seen by a leading politician for a while.

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	Faisal Islam8207;Verified account @faisalislam Only 15 mentions of Turkey in this letter about Turkey from the week before the referendum still live on the Vote Leave website, signed by Boris Johnson. http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/letter_to_the_prime_minister_and_foreign_secretary _getting_the_facts_clear_on_turkey.html …

https://twitter.com/faisalislam/stat...49818555666432

[marton]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	Is that shorthand for "lied through his effing teeth"? It was the most ridiculous, bumbling speech I've seen by a leading politician for a while. https://twitter.com/faisalislam/stat...49818555666432

Yes, "lied through his effing teeth" - in a normal world that would have destroyed his chances of advancement but today - who knows!

[Sandgrounder]

	Quote:	marton
	Yes, "lied through his effing teeth" - in a normal world that would have destroyed his chances of advancement but today - who knows!

Nevermind his chances of advancement, there’s probably more than enough evidence of misrepresentation, intention to mislead and perhaps fraud around to make those shysters a bit nervous. Under a no deal with roadblocks thrown at trade, living standards dropping and costs increasing there will be more than enough motivation to explore a legal route to throw a big spotlight on their shenanigans.

[John William]

Is Britain being driven into a Mad Max World following Tuesday's meaningless vote ?

Video of Theresa May's Mad Max Brexit

[Fish Paste]

Jeremy Corbyn - the kind of negotiator to walk out of the DFS sale with a full price sofa.

[StirB]

Good news Loz and FMF...

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...tern-countries

Maybe you could put it on the side of a Ferry circling the island to discourage the forrins?

[Today only]

The real question that still hasn't been asked is "Why are we in such a situation ?" and the answer quite simply is because of a very badly worded treaty that was signed with no thought of anybody wanting to leave the group.


Well at least one country is leaving, probably more and what is the best the politicians can come up with ?


Yet another badly worded agreement that is open to interpretation and full of ambiguity and will lead to an exact same position is a few months or years.

[Odile]

40 Cons MPs threaten to resign unless Mrs May definitely puts 'No Deal' aside - great news.

[Troublawesome]

Yes great, no longer shooting themselves on the foot. Might just throw a bowling ball on it.

[curley]

	Quote:	Odile
	40 Cons MPs threaten to resign unless Mrs May definitely puts 'No Deal' aside - great news.

Yep, definitely great news. Get rid of 40 notorious nay-sayers, a slight chance to get some constructive people in there.

in the mean time

How does this work?

[John William]

Also following TM's Prime ministers question time speech on the TV today.

[Odile]

And Corbyn finally comes off the bl**dy fence and calls for vote in Commons on Second Referendum (well, I'd say the first informed Referendum). At last.

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	Odile
	40 Cons MPs threaten to resign unless Mrs May definitely puts 'No Deal' aside - great news.

Let them resign

[Sandgrounder]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Let them resign

Don't want to let anything get in the way of the march towards a bland dictatorship, do we now?

[Fish Paste]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Let them resign

There needs to be a 'burning of the MPs' at the next opportunity/when this is over.

I can see the smaller parties making good progress when people cannot bring themselves to vote for some of the slime evident now the chips are down.