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Old 23.01.2019, 08:54
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That's a normal strategic move and has nothing to do with Brexit.
Otherwise he wouldn't move to one of the most expensive countries in the world with a more difficult access to the EU.
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Dyson’s announcement comes shortly after Singapore and the EU agreed a landmark free trade agreement. Singapore’s prime minister, Lee Hsien Loong, said the deal, signed in October, was: “an ambitious trade deal, it is a high-quality arrangement, and it is one which will fly the flag and encourage others, I hope, to do the same.”
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Old 23.01.2019, 09:07
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Yes, but isn't that only relevant for Dyson products produced in Singapore, which could be independent on the location of the headquarters?
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Old 23.01.2019, 09:09
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That's a normal strategic move and has nothing to do with Brexit.
Otherwise he wouldn't move to one of the most expensive countries in the world with a more difficult access to the EU.
In Dyson's case, it's not. He's long manufactured his goods in the far east, setting up a manufacturing arm of the business in Malaysia back in 2002 (which was highlighted during the 'I'm Backing Britain' campaign almost 20yrs ago), but this is a relocation of the company's HQ.

He's just the latest prominent Brexiteer that has secured their position outside of the UK, which effectively minimises their exposure to any impact caused by Brexit. Granted, that's a common sense strategic move if you have the wherewithal to do so, but we shouldn't forget that these are the exact same people who told everyone that everything would be hunky dory after Brexit.

These aren't rats abandoning a sinking ship. These are the rats that scuppered it in the first place.
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Old 23.01.2019, 09:16
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Yes, but isn't that only relevant for Dyson products produced in Singapore, which could be independent on the location of the headquarters?
Sure, and I guess that's the line he's sticking to.
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Old 23.01.2019, 09:19
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

P&O re-registering their ferries in Cyprus. Sony moving their European HQ to Amsterdam.
https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...major-uk-firms

Also more companies stockpiling. As I mentioned earlier, this is helping to keep the UK afloat economically as there is massive overdemand in the system right now - might be "interesting" after Brexit as everyone then begins to de-stock with the corresponding negative impact on demand.
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Old 23.01.2019, 09:26
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Sure, and I guess that's the line he's sticking to.
At least my preferred little friend is happy about the move.
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Old 23.01.2019, 10:28
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

It would probably be fair to say that Dyson's products weren't the biggest suckers in the UK
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Old 23.01.2019, 11:04
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Brexiter self-own of the week...

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Old 23.01.2019, 11:08
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At least my preferred little friend is happy about the move.
Tests for the latest 'Bon à Savoir' consumer magazine, show that the Bosch Model Athlet 25.2 - scores much better than the Dyson. Top mark of 4.2 to Dyson 3.9 (with worst Philips Pro Max at 3.0). The Bosch Model is 227.95 compared to a whooping 649 for the Dyson !

BTW the MiostarV24, from Migros, scored 3.6- so very close to Dyson- and at 198.-

There ...
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Old 23.01.2019, 11:15
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So Dyson is is managing to get a high margin without having the best product. Doesn't that mean that they are successful is business?
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Old 23.01.2019, 11:51
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Brexiter self-own of the week...
Almost. There are two other contenders. Perhaps we should have a poll on this?

Firstly, the follow on from your post...

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Jakub Krupa Retweeted Daniel Kawczynski

A Polish govt source shots this down immediately saying Britain's withdrawal from the EU without an agreement is the worst possible scenario for Brexit Adds Poland would evaluate any A50 motion if/when it comes from the UK govt, but would need to have a clear plan of what's next
https://twitter.com/JakubKrupa/statu...24567139885063


Contender No.1 - This is more in the 'general debarcle' section, but still worth a mention.
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So it starts....#hostileenvironment
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Jakub KrupaVerified account @JakubKrupa

I have been in the UK for over 6,5 years. The EU Settlement Scheme - launched today - requires 5 years of residence to obtain settled status - but the IT system doesn't recognise my residence in this country, and asks for additional documentation.…
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2:35 AM - 21 Jan 2019
https://twitter.com/alantravis40/sta...97621042126849 ...which is worth reading in conjunction with this follow on from a tech journo... https://twitter.com/TehMadness/statu...00919635648512 Contender No.2 - I love Jon Snow for highlighting this 'own' on his twitter feed. It works on so many levels.





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Nigel Farage hit back at Channel 4 News but only managed to own himself

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https://twitter.com/jonsnowC4/status...94100284628992


It's been quite a few days for twits and debarcles.
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Singapore signed a free trade treaty with the EU 3 months ago - so Dyson is moving there to have access to EU market (+ tax reasons and low cost labour). A hypocrite of the highest order

Buy Bosch or Migros - as good and much much cheaper.
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Old 23.01.2019, 11:54
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Singapore signed a free trade treaty with the EU 3 months ago - so Dyson is moving there to have access to EU market (+ tax reasons and low cost labour). A hypocrite of the highest order

Buy Bosch or Migros - as good and much much cheaper.

Low cost labour in Singapore One of the funniest statements in EF history.
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Old 23.01.2019, 12:03
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So Dyson is is managing to get a high margin without having the best product. Doesn't that mean that they are successful is business?
It means that you can fleece anyone by telling them "it's designer". Even one of my mates paid 3 figures for a salt and pepper pot by his favourite interiors designer.

A fool and his money are soon parted, but once you add the words 'innovation' and 'designer', they're queuing up for the privilege.

Simple fact is, every food manufacturing company and hotel that I've worked in, has had a fleet of Henry hoovers, for the simple reason that if they break, you can easily buy spare parts and mend them yourself.
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Old 23.01.2019, 12:05
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Low cost labour in Singapore One of the funniest statements in EF history.
His HQ is moving to Singapore, but the manufacturing plant is in Malaysia and has been for 17yrs.
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Tests for the latest 'Bon à Savoir' consumer magazine, show that the Bosch Model Athlet 25.2 - scores much better than the Dyson. Top mark of 4.2 to Dyson 3.9 (with worst Philips Pro Max at 3.0). The Bosch Model is 227.95 compared to a whooping 649 for the Dyson !

BTW the MiostarV24, from Migros, scored 3.6- so very close to Dyson- and at 198.-

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weren't these tests a big beef dyson had with the EU recently, EU test are when they are all empty, and once you start filling them with erm dust, they all (apart from the dyson) start to lose huge chunks of performance. iirc the bosch also has some kind of cheat where it exceeds the max eu power ratings. So like everything else its really down to how they where tested.
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His HQ is moving to Singapore, but the manufacturing plant is in Malaysia and has been for 17yrs.

Both HQ and the new electric car factory will be in Singapore.
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Old 23.01.2019, 12:17
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Low cost labour in Singapore One of the funniest statements in EF history.
None of this matters and is frankly just dead-end irrelevant points. The crux of it, and in relation to Brexit, is that a staunch Brexiter who apparently backed British-based business and trade is taking a successful business OUT of the UK and moving it to a country which is both near to the manufacturing plant and already has favourable trade deals with the EU.

The question should be, is he doing this to remain competitive and if so, why the hell did he want the UK to get out of the EU if it means businesses can no longer be competitive to the likes of him?
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None of this matters and is frankly just dead-end irrelevant points. The crux of it, and in relation to Brexit, is that a staunch Brexiter who apparently backed British-based business and trade is taking a successful business OUT of the UK and moving it to a country which is both near to the manufacturing plant and already has favourable trade deals with the EU.

The question should be, is he doing this to remain competitive and if so, why the hell did he want the UK to get out of the EU if it means businesses can no longer be competitive to the likes of him?
dyson has been caught out being a massive hypocrite on more then one occasion do what I say not what I do!!
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None of this matters and is frankly just dead-end irrelevant points. The crux of it, and in relation to Brexit, is that a staunch Brexiter who apparently backed British-based business and trade is taking a successful business OUT of the UK and moving it to a country which is both near to the manufacturing plant and already has favourable trade deals with the EU.

The question should be, is he doing this to remain competitive and if so, why the hell did he want the UK to get out of the EU if it means businesses can no longer be competitive to the likes of him?

Seriously, building a car plant in Singapore, which is both expensive and not exactly car-friendly, is a rather unusual move. If there would be a motive of cost or market accessibility, he would have gone to a poor EU region but obviously there are different motives.
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