The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[Clocker]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	The UK is now firmly on the path to a no deal Brexit.

Wasn't it always? And rightly so. I really don't understand why the UK didn't leave much sooner.

[StirB]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	And to think it’s all thanks to Gina Miller.

Well she did personally paint the lies onto the bus I guess.

	Quote:	Clocker
	Wasn't it always? And rightly so. I really don't understand why the UK didn't leave much sooner.

Not really. The country's stumbled up to this point with no one in Parliament really wanting the outcome.

[Sandgrounder]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Nope, because Parliament saw to that last night. The UK is now firmly on the path to a no deal Brexit. Unless the EU change tack (they won’t), then the UK will leave without a deal on March 29th.

Maybe so but the government is going to have to think very carefully how it deals with the massive backlash from the electorate. Remember, many Brexiters didn't want such a damaging scenario, nor did most of the industry leaders, and there's also a few million remainers who will have a lot to say.

	Quote:	Loz1983
	And to think it’s all thanks to Gina Miller. Fantastic.

David Cameron must be breathing a sigh of relief.

[k_and_e]

	Quote:	Sandgrounder
	Maybe so but the government is going to have to think very carefully how it deals with the massive backlash from the electorate. Remember, many Brexiters didn't want such a damaging scenario, nor did most of the industry leaders, and there's also a few million remainers who will have a lot to say.

Also keep in mind that there are EU elections in May. Especially sitting parties will not want a chaotic Brexit as it will very likely change the political landscape.

[Swisstree]

So May returns to Brussels negotiate the backstop. With what? What is her/ the government's alternative to put to the EU? She doesn't have one.. the brady amendment is bollox because it doesn't have an alternative either. Talk about a major head hurt, WTF do they think they're doing?

There is no negotiation here because she has no ideas to put forward.. again undeliverable. The tory papers roaring this morning at how strong she is, lol! All she has done is pull the tories together, but then last night's performance is about the tory party. Fake strength - they still have no clue how to deliver Brexit.

[baboon]

	Quote:	k_and_e
	Also keep in mind that there are EU elections in May. Especially sitting parties will not want a chaotic Brexit as it will very likely change the political landscape.

If anything I would see that the other way round. The Euro sceptic parties are more likely to benefit from an orderly Brexit with little impact on the UK. The "well if they can do it, so can we" scenario.

	Quote:	Sandgrounder
	Maybe so but the government is going to have to think very carefully how it deals with the massive backlash from the electorate. Remember, many Brexiters didn't want such a damaging scenario, nor did most of the industry leaders, and there's also a few million remainers who will have a lot to say.

It wouldn't be half as big as the backlash if Brexit were to be blocked. Thanks to last night, that ain't happening now

[Sandgrounder]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	It wouldn't be half as big as the backlash if Brexit were to be blocked. Thanks to last night, that ain't happening now

Maybe in the short-term but give it a couple of years of a no deal and then the true damage will start to become clear.

The backlash of "blocking" it (or "delaying", which is the word I think you were looking for) would have been much shorter and much less of an impact.

[bigblue2]

as soon as the EU start passing all the laws and regulations the UK has blocked over the years, and the UK having to accept them, the huge backlash will start.

who knows whats best now?? maybe a hard brexit will be the best 'option' after all.

so glad I'm here not there.

[Fish Paste]

If there is a hard brexit, a pro-EU party will probably develop and the UK will be back ‘in Europe’ within 10 years.
Enough greys would have died off by then.

[Clocker]

	Quote:	Fish Paste
	If there is a hard brexit, a pro-EU party will probably develop and the UK will be back ‘in Europe’ within 10 years.

In the words of Thatcher (and read them a little more slowly):

No, no, no.

[Sandgrounder]

	Quote:	Clocker
	In the words of Thatcher (and read them a little more slowly): No, no, no.

Thatcher was pro EU (or common market as it was).

[Fish Paste]

Brussels responds

[Today only]

You really think the Europeans want the Brits back after this fiasco ?


Even if it was the case, the rules would be vastly changed, no rebate to start with

[Clocker]

	Quote:	Sandgrounder
	Thatcher was pro EU

Not entirely!

[Rob]

So unless I've read this wrong Parliament has instructed May to go back to the EU and resubmit the deal that's already been rejected but more slowly and in a louder voice.

We really are living up to our stereotype.

[curley]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Not really. The country's stumbled up to this point with no one in Parliament really wanting the outcome.

Yep. What a way to run a country

	Quote:	Sandgrounder
	Thatcher was pro EU (or common market as it was).

Well, you see that's not the same thing. I was all pro common market too - when Switzerland said no to it.

	Quote:	curley
	Yep. What a way to run a country

The only thing I can see stopping no Brexit now is when businesses realise that no one has done anything significant to prepare for no-deal Brexit on both sides. Airbus can make loud noises but they're still going to need wings to put on their planes after March 29th.

[Odile]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	It wouldn't be half as big as the backlash if Brexit were to be blocked. Thanks to last night, that ain't happening now

So go back, you voted for it- you have it, you own it - go on...

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