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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Old 30.01.2019, 17:31
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Although as someone who lives and works overseas you would think he might have had a broader perspective of the EU then your average Daily Mail reader.
Like the Swiss, Norwegians and them uneducated folks?
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Old 30.01.2019, 17:35
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Like the Swiss, Norwegians and them uneducated folks?
...who are all in the Single Market and in customs union and accept all the regulation and European Court jurisdiction thereon?
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Old 30.01.2019, 18:29
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To have the right to vote for something which has such a massive and disastrous effect on so many, and some a lot more than others - and not to have to live the consequences, is a travesty of Democracy (a is the whole Brexit debâcle).
Why would you not vote if you can? If it were inappropriate the right shouldn't have been given in the first place.

Now, whether it makes sense to allow voting after 10, 15, or even more years of absence (forever in the Swiss case) seems like a question worth asking. But that's a different discussion altogether.
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Old 30.01.2019, 18:37
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Why would you not vote if you can? If it were inappropriate the right shouldn't have been given in the first place.

Now, whether it makes sense to allow voting after 10, 15, or even more years of absence (forever in the Swiss case) seems like a question worth asking. But that's a different discussion altogether.
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Old 30.01.2019, 19:00
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Not crying if you lose it and wishing you lose it are two very different things.

Welcome folks, to Brexiteer reading comprehension skills.
Exactly, would not wish anyone harm - but the lack of concern and empathy from some people for those who are currently truly and severely affected by the realities of Brexit - is truly upsetting. To vote on such a massive issue, without having to weather any of the consequences, seems so wrong.
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Old 30.01.2019, 19:09
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Exactly, would not wish anyone harm - but the lack of concern and empathy from some people for those who are currently truly and severely affected by the realities of Brexit - is truly upsetting. To vote on such a massive issue, without having to weather any of the consequences, seems so wrong.

It's happened, more than 50% of people who were allowed to vote voted in favour of it.


Get over it and make the best of it instead of continually crying for pie in the sky
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Well Barnier says the Backstop isn't for renegotiation and this is before May and her renegotiation team fly to Brussels.

BBC news - backstop is part and parcel of the deal says Barnier

Now rumour has it that the British are about to play dirty with Ireland. As they reckon Dublin is the
weakest link in getting them to cave in over their insistence on the backstop.

Apparently the UK is mulling the idea of using the Cold War era arts of persuasion on Southern Ireland.
Like greasing the palms of a number of Senior Southern Irish politicians or ensnare a few of them in a
Russian style honey-trap. In order for them to drop their insistence on the backstop in the
UK - EU Withdrawal Agreement.
Some say the UK already have 'agents in place' to do the dirty work for them, if necessary.
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Old 30.01.2019, 20:37
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Well Barnier says the Backstop isn't for renegotiation and this is before May and her renegotiation team fly to Brussels.
I think May has an ace in the hole. All she has to say to the EU is that if they won't renegotiate then Britain won't leave.
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Old 30.01.2019, 20:41
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It's happened, more than 50% of people who were allowed to vote voted in favour of it.


Get over it and make the best of it instead of continually crying for pie in the sky
Ahem telling people what to write, do, think....much? Where is curley when you need her.
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Old 30.01.2019, 20:50
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I feel the same way about not having the right to vote on something which will have an effect on us too.
If Cameron had honoured his promise of changing the voting rights for the purpose of the referendum and allowed those of us who have been outside of the UK for more than 15 years the right to vote in it then I’m pretty sure we wouldn’t be in this mess now.
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I'm outraged on your behalf. Why on earth are you not allowed to vote even if you've been outside of your own country for a longer period? I haven't heard of this type of rules before, so I'm really surprised. I don't see any sense in this.
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Old 30.01.2019, 20:51
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It's happened, more than 50% of people who were allowed to vote voted in favour of it.
We've had Brexiteer reading comprehension, now we have Brexiteer maths. Imagine how much more of a mess (ha!) the Brexit process would be if one of them was in charge...We'd have ended up ceding the Channel Islands to France!
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I actually wonder how many of the remainers on EF have decided not to vote - but now have strong opinions about Brexit.
Yeah, imagine the most active thread in an EF of English speakers in Switzerland having an opinion on the US President / Elections which they also didn't vote in. I think you are still allowed opinions on stuff you do/don't can/can't vote in, unless the EU globalist communist fascists have stopped that too.
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Old 30.01.2019, 21:01
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The UK has agreed in principle to a post-Brexit free trade agreement with Israel, with the Jewish state becoming the first country to do so ahead of the UK leaving the European Union.

Britain’s Secretary for International Trade, Dr Liam Fox announced the decision on 23 January together with Israel’s Economy Minister Eli Cohen at the World Economic Forum in Davos.

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Old 30.01.2019, 21:19
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Sounds a lot like Trump's de-nuclearisation of North Korea.
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Old 30.01.2019, 21:42
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If we can add Equador, Gabon and Laos, we will be on a roll.
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Don't forget Zimbabwe, I hear business is booming there.
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Not crying if you lose it and wishing you lose it are two very different things.

Welcome folks, to Brexiteer reading comprehension skills.

P.S. despite our differences, I certainly hope you and everyone else on the Brexit side doesn't lose their job or suffer. I hope Britain thrives too, but I can't see it happening, sadly. There's no sense being a cnt about it though, good will to all in the real world, despite our cyber-fights.
My reading comprehension skills are perfectly fine. The questions you should be asking yourself is why anyone would want bring this up as a topic in the first place?

It's irrelevant anyhow. I've not had a proper job for years - the Russians pay top dollar for me to spout shite all over the internet.

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You do realize Loz did not vote.

Although as someone who lives and works overseas you would think he might have had a broader perspective of the EU then your average Daily Mail reader.
Correction, I certainly did vote in the referendum. I didn't however vote for any of the 650 earwax testicles who have been landed with the job of carrying out the result.
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Loz's new car...

https://www.markpack.org.uk/149399/n...-back-control/
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Sorry folks. Based upon new information, this is Loz's new car complete with steam power.
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Old 31.01.2019, 00:26
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I think May has an ace in the hole. All she has to say to the EU is that if they won't renegotiate then Britain won't leave.
If that doesn't work, she could also threaten to hold another referendum, which risks yielding an even more divisive outcome than the previous one, followed by a general election risking a result even less conclusive than the last, which could force whatever Government (if one could even be formed) to enter into all sorts of highly volatile coalitions to cling to power and that without any pretense of a coherent position regarding Europe.
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If that doesn't work, she could also threaten to hold another referendum, which risks yielding an even more divisive outcome than the previous one, followed by a general election risking a result even less conclusive than the last, which could force whatever Government (if one could even be formed) to enter into all sorts of highly volatile coalitions to cling to power and that without any pretense of a coherent position regarding Europe.
This is basically what we have already, so how much worse can it get?
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