The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	TobiasM
	You either understand the history, or you don't!

Like my old boss used to drum into us...

"It's absolutely fine to say you don't know, but always add "..but I will find out for you". Never, never hazard a guess."

	Quote:	TobiasM
	You either understand the history, or you don't!

Exactly. The Irish are very worried about Brexit. All my family and friends in the south and Mr. Swisstree's family/friends in the North. No government for over two years in NI and no representation apart from mad bigoted Arlene.

It's bad enough the ignorance about the UK and what it is like here on the ground, but now we are starting sh!te talk about Ireland.

[st2lemans]

	Quote:	TobiasM
	Don't feed the Troll Sandgrounder You can see he is revelling in the chaos.

Sandpounder's not a SHE?

Tom

[TobiasM]

	Quote:	Swisstree
	Exactly. The Irish are very worried about Brexit. All my family and friends in the south and Mr. Swisstree's family/friends in the North. No government for over two years in NI and no representation apart from mad bigoted Arlene. It's bad enough the ignorance about the UK and what it is like here on the ground, but now we are starting sh!te talk about Ireland.

Sadly it seems to be the way the world is going thanks to the internet and social media. People think they understand or have the answers to a multitude of complex issues, yet they have absolutely no real comprehension. Its not just a dumbing down, its a complete disregard of all expert knowledge or opinion, because somebody once glanced at a page on Wikipedia or read on a thread or forum or twitter feed, or whatever. It used to be I heard it from a guy down the pub so it must be true. Now its multiplied at perpetuated ad infinitum through cyber space.

[TobiasM]

	Quote:	st2lemans
	Sandpounder's not a SHE? Tom

Eh?

[Fish Paste]

	Quote:	greenmount
	Which is quite a generous quota, so things are not that bad as they seemed.

Don't know, it's still a quota on UK citizen numbers whereas before we were herded into the bigger corral.

Probably generous enough, but you wouldn't want to try arriving later in the year.

[st2lemans]

	Quote:	John William
	If on 29 March 2019, there's no EU Exit deal, you may need a 1926 IDP to drive in Liechtenstein and in addition to this the Principality of Liechtenstein will require British drivers to drive slowly through the Principality and always have a man with a Red Flag walking in front of you, to warn other drivers there's a Non EU British driver on the road.

Who the hell ever drives through Liechtenstein?

Hell, most non-Swiss (and certainly some Swiss) probably can't even find it on a map!

Tom

[TobiasM]

	Quote:	Fish Paste
	Don't know, it's still a quota on UK citizen numbers whereas before we were hearded into the bigger corral. Probably generous enough, but you wouldn't want to try arriving later in the year.

Well it seems like some people on the Forum believe, as they are already here, it doesn't matter, simply because they won't be personally affected.

[Clocker]

	Quote:	st2lemans
	Who the hell ever drives through Liechtenstein

People who live in the area.

	Quote:	TobiasM
	Well it seems like some people on the Forum believe, as they are already here, it doesn't matter, simply because they won't be personally affected.

With FMOP there are 43000 Brits living in Switzerland. The Swiss government have very generously offered a 3500 cap. That would allow for an 8% increase in Brits moving every single year. We're very unlikely to come anywhere close to that cap.

[Clocker]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	With FMOP there are 43000 Brits living in Switzerland.

Many were here before FMOP began.

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	TobiasM
	Well it seems like some people on the Forum believe, as they are already here, it doesn't matter, simply because they won't be personally affected.

Until they come to renew their B and C permits and suddenly realise that each Kanton has it's own language requirements now. Some people who never bothered to learn the language are going to get a shock this year.

[Clocker]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	Until they come to renew their B and C permits and suddenly realise that each Kanton has it's own language requirements now. Some people who never bothered to learn the language are going to get a shock this year.

I'm amazed that CH was so lax in dishing out the Permit Cs to people who hadn't learnt the language after 5 or 10 years in the first place. After one year here, the language should be learnt. Anything else is simply ridiculous.

[k_and_e]

	Quote:	st2lemans
	Who the hell ever drives through Liechtenstein?

The Swiss army.

[amogles]

	Quote:	st2lemans
	Who the hell ever drives through Liechtenstein? Hell, most non-Swiss (and certainly some Swiss) probably can't even find it on a map! Tom

It's on a map you say?


I guess you're not allowed to unfold a map there because you'd cover all of it.


Anyway, isn't that the place the drunken Juncker hails from?


Somewhere between Sweden and Australia.

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	Clocker
	After one year here, the language should be learnt. Anything else is simply ridiculous.

My partner didn't learn the language the first time he lived in ZH because he was on rotating shifts, so could only attend the course he enrolled on every other week. Many people have difficulty fitting lessons in around their work commitments.

[Fish Paste]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	With FMOP there are 43000 Brits living in Switzerland. The Swiss government have very generously offered a 3500 cap. That would allow for an 8% increase in Brits moving every single year. We're very unlikely to come anywhere close to that cap.

You are forgetting the mass exodus from blighted Britain after Brexit.

I'm considering setting up a rubber dingy import business and flogging them to the desperate down in Dover.

[k_and_e]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	My partner didn't learn the language the first time he lived in ZH because he was on rotating shifts, so could only attend the course he enrolled on every other week. Many people have difficulty fitting lessons in around their work commitments.

Sorry but that's just an excuse, combined with the fact that you can pretty easily survive here when speaking English so that there is not really a need to learn the language.

[st2lemans]

	Quote:	Clocker
	People who live in the area.

And how many of those are Brits who don't have Swiss licenses?

Tom

[Clocker]

	Quote:	st2lemans
	And how many of those are Brits?

No idea. But perhaps you can look this up online or contact the relevant authorities if you really want to know.

Please let us know how you get on.