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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Old 14.02.2019, 22:27
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Now take into consideration the women not stupid enough to get themselves pregnant, the demographic of women who engaged themselves with their new occupiers and the fact that the south of the country wasn't invaded until the very end of 1942. It really happened. Mainly in Paris, but certainly not limited to.

When you have a spare half day go and watch the hard going but worthwhile documentary Le Chargrin et la Pitié. It tells a story where many of the French, certainly in the early part of the occupation, were only too happy to have the Nazis there. The bottom line is that they had no business having a place at the top table after the war.
Not all German soldiers were Nazis; probably only a minority!
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Not all German soldiers were Nazis; probably only a minority!
And not all French people had the stomach for war, so France shouldn't have been at the negotiating table afterwards, despite suffering the heaviest losses and being our ally, apparently.
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Old 14.02.2019, 22:43
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3 network have confirmed no changes in roaming charges regardless of a deal or not.
I was with 3 for a long, long time, but ended the contract in Nov 2017 when they lost all coverage for the area where my UK house is. They only have 12% of the market share currently, but if the big three, O2, Vodaphone and BT join them in this, then that would be a win.
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You mean like....EU? Sorry, couldn't resist.
I get what you say, but I think it's normal to have less favourable opinions in regards with some issues, no matter which country is discussed (I personally don't care about Switzerland's role during WW2 as I don't really care about the British class system either). People discuss. They might even change their opinions at one point or another.
That's fine as long as the same standards are applied to both (all) sides (to the extent that's reasonable). chuff doesn't. Again, it's about double standards.

Not sure what you mean with your EU reference. At any rate, comparing war with a contractual situation all parties enter into on their own free will probably doesn't work.
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I was with 3 for a long, long time, but ended the contract in Nov 2017 when they lost all coverage for the area where my UK house is. They only have 12% of the market share currently, but if the big three, O2, Vodaphone and BT join them in this, then that would be a win.
All Swiss companies offering unlimited EU roaming as of next month too. Lovely stuff.
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Old 15.02.2019, 01:00
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Now take into consideration the women not stupid enough to get themselves pregnant...
Ah, famously self-impregnating, those French women. And there Would be all those mountains of birth control during pre-pill era WW2. You're quite right, what were they thinking.


I'm on 3 mobile, have been for years. A massive selling point was always their "at home destination no-xhange tariff deal. They probably called it something snappier tbh. Is a bloody good job they're not reneging on contract deals!


As for cars running on elastictrickery... not yet thank you. I can barely remember to charge my mobile phone.
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Old 15.02.2019, 01:14
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Ah, famously self-impregnating, those French women. And there Would be all those mountains of birth control during pre-pill era WW2. You're quite right, what were they thinking.

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This thread is funny. Too funny. Plus ça change!
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Old 15.02.2019, 02:20
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A rather odd statement considering the fact that it comes from someone who bashes Switzerland for its role during WW2.
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Why should I bother, it's gibberish anyway.
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That's fine as long as the same standards are applied to both (all) sides (to the extent that's reasonable). chuff doesn't. Again, it's about double standards.
Can someone please do me a a huge favour and tell me wtf this deeply awkward guy is referring to?
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Can someone please do me a a huge favour and tell me wtf this deeply awkward guy is referring to?
Maybe this?

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The reason Switzerland did not get involved because in addition to a dissolved military, they knew they were surrounded by defensible mountains and were overall a low priority target and threat. Plus, being neutrally minded, they were happy enough to sit back and let others do the dirty work. I don't think empassioned moralism has historically been Switzerland's strong point.

(Ok I am no historian but that's my general take on it).

If the UK/USA and France had not got involved and "stood aside like a good neighbour" the world would be a very different and much darker place.
I can imagine it sticking in the mind of a Swiss person.
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Old 15.02.2019, 07:19
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Old 15.02.2019, 07:28
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Ah, famously self-impregnating, those French women. And there Would be all those mountains of birth control during pre-pill era WW2. You're quite right, what were they thinking.
You know birth control didn’t start with the advent if the pill, right? And France is a catholic country after all...
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You know birth control didn’t start with the advent if the pill, right? And France is a catholic country after all...
Well the Catholics certainly believe in parthenogenesis, maybe it was that.
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Old 15.02.2019, 07:49
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It's neutral as far as this thread is concerned, Project fear had mentioned loss of AirBus wing production.
"Project fear" coming from the Airbus CEO directly. And talking on a 10+ year timescale. Nothing remotely to do with the A380 decision, despite Loz's and your attempt to link it.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-b...-idUSKCN1PI0HS
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All Swiss companies offering unlimited EU roaming as of next month too. Lovely stuff.
Finally towing the line to the rest of the EU!
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"Project fear" coming from the Airbus CEO directly. And talking on a 10+ year timescale. Nothing remotely to do with the A380 decision, despite Loz's and your attempt to link it.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-b...-idUSKCN1PI0HS
I think it’s probably down to the demand, it’s a big plane, requires big runways, airlines then need to invest in maintenance facilities large enough to operate in n the plane. They did say initially in the face of Brexit uncertainty they would move wing production. I guess with global economic uncertainty added by the prospect of the UK leaving the EU. Airlines were not so keen to burden the cost. I am not sure but the Boeing Dreamliner is probably picking up more business in the large plane department.
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...They did say initially in the face of Brexit uncertainty they would move wing production...
Again - that statement was only a couple of weeks ago and has nothing to do with the A380 announcement. The statement remains valid and is to be seen over a 10+ year horizon.

Aircraft wing manufacture is complex and a very long-term process. Airbus were particularly talking about the next generation A320 wing which will require new tooling and production lines and from which the UK now stands a high chance of being excluded. However that will only impact from about 2030.

As I have said on here before, I don't particularly hold with many of the March 29 doom scenarios., at least for manufacturing. Depending on industry and investment horizon there will be a steady movement of production away from the UK but this will take from 6 months to 10+ years.

The more immediate impact however will be on the services sector. This is much more mobile and - depending on form of Brexit - could (not will) lead to a much more immediate hit as companies relocate management, marketing and financial functions out of the UK. Probably not affecting a massive number of actual people but moving a very large financial and tax base out of the UK.
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Again - that statement was only a couple of weeks ago and has nothing to do with the A380 announcement. The statement remains valid and is to be seen over a 10+ year horizon.

Aircraft wing manufacture is complex and a very long-term process. Airbus were particularly talking about the next generation A320 wing which will require new tooling and production lines and from which the UK now stands a high chance of being excluded. However that will only impact from about 2030.

As I have said on here before, I don't particularly hold with many of the March 29 doom scenarios., at least for manufacturing. Depending on industry and investment horizon there will be a steady movement of production away from the UK but this will take from 6 months to 10+ years.

The more immediate impact however will be on the services sector. This is much more mobile and - depending on form of Brexit - could (not will) lead to a much more immediate hit as companies relocate management, marketing and financial functions out of the UK. Probably not affecting a massive number of actual people but moving a very large financial and tax base out of the UK.

Exactly, there are a multitude of factors at play in the decision to stop the manufacture of a plane that cost billions to develop. My point is that Brexit is going to shape the global economy not just Britains and there is a lot of uncertainty in the world at the moment.
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You know birth control didn’t start with the advent if the pill, right? And France is a catholic country after all...
I did. Sheep intestines. Originally called French letters I believe. Or English overcoats depending on which side of the channel you hailed from. Yum-my. I can only imagine that they were spectacularly effective. And yes I'm well aware there were all sorts of culturally specific other versions. I'm also well aware that you know what point I was making but are choosing to ignore it in favour of point scoring. So have at it.

You know that it takes both a mummy and a daddy who love each other very much... right?

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Intelligent, clear, honest - so refreshing. And yes 'a sacred duty':

Dominic Grieve.

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