The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH - Page 891

#**17801** 15.02.2019, 18:13

I've just had a brainwave. Why doesn't Mrs May declare a national emergency and state we are remaining...she knows she wants to...

Clocker · #**17802** 15.02.2019, 18:16

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	I've just had a brainwave. Why doesn't Mrs May declare a national emergency and state we are remaining...she knows she wants to...

It would only be temporary whilst they get things sorted out though as the result of the referendum will be honoured.

#**17803** 15.02.2019, 18:17

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	I've just had a brainwave. Why doesn't Mrs May declare a national emergency and state we are remaining...she knows she wants to...

That's exactly what I'm expecting to happen. Maybe not in that exact way, but I certainly wouldn't put any money on the United Kingdom being out of the European Union on March 30th.

Disclaimer: I am not a famous German octopus.

Clocker · #**17804** 15.02.2019, 18:18

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	I certainly wouldn't put any money on the United Kingdom being out of the European Union on March 30th.

Especially if May is only having the final commons vote on the afternoon of the 29th.

#**17805** 15.02.2019, 18:29

	Quote:	Clocker
	It would only be temporary whilst they get things sorted out though as the result of the referendum will be honoured.

Technically, it doesn’t. It was ‘advisory’. This is the government’s get out of jail free card. They wouldn’t survive nixing it so it’s a last resort, but this ‘will of the people’ thing is only the will of SOME of the people, and attitudes and awareness have changed over the last 2+ years.

#**17806** 15.02.2019, 18:47

Hilary Benn says it as it is - an utter shambles, and 'hold our nerve' - for what???

https://www.facebook.com/RTUKnews/vi...6513309797479/

#**17807** 15.02.2019, 19:13

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	Hilary Benn says it as it is - an utter shambles, and 'hold our nerve' - for what??? https://www.facebook.com/RTUKnews/vi...6513309797479/

It was an undeliverable utter shambles two years ago, nothing's changed.. except for the exposed nature of the tory cock-up and the inevitable break up of the tory and the labour party.

I don't know about anyone else, but I can't even look at a picture of Corbyn now without feeling sick. WTF, is he doing? Seriously, W.T.F.?!

bowlie · #**17808** 15.02.2019, 19:31

	Quote:	Clocker
	It would only be temporary whilst they get things sorted out though as the result of the referendum will be honoured.

Exactly 37.441457% of the British electorate voted to leave the EU. How can that be the will of the people?

Why shouldn’t abstaintions or failure to vote be counted as prefering the status quo?

This is a farce.

#**17809** 15.02.2019, 19:34

	Quote:	bowlie
	Exactly 37.441457% of the British electorate voted to leave the EU. How can that be the will of the people? Why shouldn’t abstaintions or failure to vote be counted as prefering the status quo? This is a farce.

I disagree with Remain voters, but I respect their decision and am grateful for their participation in the democratic process.

People who could vote but didn't, on the other hand, can go f themselves.

Clocker · #**17810** 15.02.2019, 20:00

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	Technically, it doesn’t. It was ‘advisory’. this ‘will of the people’ thing is only the will of SOME of the people, and attitudes and awareness have changed over the last 2+ years.

Fully aware of that, which is exactly I said 'will be honoured' and not 'must be'.

As for the 'will of the people'. Yes it's the will of some of the people. Fortunately of far more than the will of those who don't want Brexit. And that is a huge relief for many who have suffered for far too long.

Brexit will go ahead because of the result of the referendum.
And to be quite honest I think it's high time the minority, the so-called 're-moaners', got used to the idea and ceased clinging so desperately and pathetically to the ridiculous idea that there is a possibility of reversing the decision. There's not.

And with regard to attitudes changing. Yes they will have changed. Since the referendum the EU has really shown its teeth as it were, its nasty side has become much more evident. If anything, I think this just clears up any doubt that the UK will be far better off in many ways once we're out.

I really hope the nasty attitude of the EU doesn't put off other countries from seeing sense and holding votes. Other countries' peoples deserve their freedom too. Enough is enough.

st2lemans · #**17811** 15.02.2019, 20:04

	Quote:	bowlie
	Why shouldn’t abstaintions or failure to vote be counted as prefering the status quo?

For the same that they shouldn't be counted as pro Brexit.

Tom

#**17812** 15.02.2019, 20:09

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	the so-called 're-moaners'

So-called? Either use the term and own it, or don't use it.

I'd prefer the latter option, but let's at least have some honesty here.

amogles · #**17813** 15.02.2019, 20:29

	Quote:	Clocker
	I really hope the nasty attitude of the EU doesn't put off other countries from seeing sense and holding votes. Other countries' peoples deserve their freedom too. Enough is enough.

On the contary, being a nasty bully isn't something you can switch off at will. Once certain lines have been crossed and blood has been tasted, you can't go back to pretending. The Uk is not the last country that the EU will try to bully. Interesting times ahead.

#**17814** 15.02.2019, 20:53

	Quote:	amogles
	On the contary, being a nasty bully isn't something you can switch off at will. Once certain lines have been crossed and blood has been tasted, you can't go back to pretending. The Uk is not the last country that the EU will try to bully. Interesting times ahead.

I wish the bullies at my school had clearly set out their positions, then left me alone to get on with it.

greenmount · #**17815** 15.02.2019, 20:55

	Quote:	Clocker
	And with regard to attitudes changing. Yes they will have changed. Since the referendum the EU has really shown its teeth as it were, its nasty side has become much more evident. If anything, I think this just clears up any doubt that the UK will be far better off in many ways once we're out. I really hope the nasty attitude of the EU doesn't put off other countries from seeing sense and holding votes. Other countries' peoples deserve their freedom too. Enough is enough.

In which way is EU a bully? It's just a side that protects their interests. I am all pro-Brexit if that is the will of the people from this country, but not with the bitter and frankly, quite unfair remarks of this type. Each country should be free to go on their own way but not try to legitimise their bitterness and create an even bigger mess by dragging everyone into it. If it's so wonderful out of EU, why not enjoy the newly found heaven all by yourself? Why these stubborn anti-EU discourses? You got what you wanted, which is fair. Enjoy!

Fish Paste · #**17816** 15.02.2019, 21:14

	Quote:	Swisstree
	I don't know about anyone else, but I can't even look at a picture of Corbyn now without feeling sick. WTF, is he doing? Seriously, W.T.F.?!

He is playing ‘softly, softly, catchy monkey’.

He wants power, he wants Brexit, he wants May to deliver Brexit and Labour to ride in on the wave of dissent.
You can be sure, if Labour get in after any sort of Brexit, they will not be having a second referendum.
That will have to come from a ‘new’ party.
Will take years.

John William · #**17817** 15.02.2019, 21:19

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	I've just had a brainwave. Why doesn't Mrs May declare a national emergency and state we are remaining...she knows she wants to...

According to scurrilous rumours within the ERG, Jacob Rees-Mogg, The High Priest of Brexit and
MP for North-East Somerset, will be gathering his followers at Cadbury Castle in Somerset, known
to many as the most likely site for Camelot.
In order to summon King Arthur from the dead and together with his trusty sword Excalibur,
vanquish the Remoaners from our Sceptered Isle on the 29th March.

#**17818** 15.02.2019, 22:36

	Quote:	John William
	According to scurrilous rumours within the ERG, Jacob Rees-Mogg, The High Priest of Brexit and MP for North-East Somerset, will be gathering his followers at Cadbury Castle in Somerset, known to many as the most likely site for Camelot. In order to summon King Arthur from the dead and together with his trusty sword Excalibur, vanquish the Remoaners from our Sceptered Isle on the 29th March.

I heard he was to be knighted. Arise, Sir Liesalot.

Blueangel · #**17819** 15.02.2019, 23:05

	Quote:	Clocker
	Since the referendum the EU has really shown its teeth as it were, its nasty side has become much more evident.

How?

#**17820** 15.02.2019, 23:15

How indeed- they have shown incredible patience.

Do you think they should have let the UK have 'their cake and eat it- and with unicorns on top'? The UK already had incredibly favourable terms, no Schengen, no Euro, a significant rebate.