The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[RufusB]

	Quote:	Chuff
	EU have noted Brexit could be followed by Grexit, Departugal, Italeave, Czechout, Oustria, Finish, Slovakout and Byeguim. Only Germaining.

Would that be Eeee, Bye-gu[I]m?

[JagWaugh]

	Quote:	ErikdR
	I suggest we all invest in Whisky! Pound drop to its lowest since 30 years! and pray that the Game of Thrones still receive the EU support for filming in Ireland!

Uskeba is a long term strategy, the smart money is selling drugs and wellies at Glastonbury right now.



Yes, I believe there will be more EUgress initiatives (Except Germany).
The other questions, my answer would be pure conjecture.

[marton]

	Quote:	amogles
	So what do you think about Cameron stepping down? Is that the right thing? Is he effectively handing over to Boris?

Theoretically the Tory MPs will vote for a new PM at their Autumn conference.
I doubt Boris will be a popular choice by them but they may be forced into a political choice.

On the irony front after the Leave campaign use of Turkey as an argument we have the fact that one set of Boris's grandparents were Turkish which makes him half Turkish by descent

[Slaphead]

I don't know about anybody else, but I'm watching the beeb at work, and it feels like I'm watching some kind of fictional "what if" programme.

[amogles]

	Quote:	Chuff
	EU have noted Brexit could be followed by Grexit, Departugal, Italeave, Czechout, Oustria, Finish, Slovakout and Byeguim. Only Germaining.

I think you'll need to Polish up on your puns.

[RufusB]

	Quote:	Slaphead
	I don't know about anybody else, but I'm watching the beeb at work, and it feels like I'm watching some kind of fictional "what if" programme.

Yep. I've stuck LR in front of Toy Story 2 so I can watch the news... It's all conjecture.

Farage is still flapping his mouth, however.


Swisstree - are you certain there's not a little bit of space in your cellar?

[Ace1]

	Quote:	JagWaugh
	Whiskey is a long term strategy

Who brought Ireland into the discussion?

Rumours that Labour will make a move today to oust Corbyn.

[amogles]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Rumours that Labour will make a move today to oust Corbyn.

Do you think that would have a chance?

He still seems quite popular among Labour people?

The writers of Yes Minister or In The Thick Of It would have rich pickings today, that's for sure.

[amogles]

	Quote:	marton
	Theoretically the Tory MPs will vote for a new PM at their Autumn conference. I doubt Boris will be a popular choice by them but they may be forced into a political choice.

I guess it depends on who they're going to find to run against him.

Looking at the voting patterns of this referendum show just how screwed up and divided the country has become.

London + Scotland vote remain. Everywhere else votes leave.
Higher educated people vote remain, working classes vote leave.
Young people vote remain, older people vote leave.

Surely this has only come about after years upon years of political disengagement.

[MidfieldGeneral]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Looking at the voting patterns of this referendum show just how screwed up and divided the country has become. London + Scotland vote remain. Everywhere else votes leave. Higher educated people vote remain, working classes vote leave. Young people vote remain, older people vote leave. Surely this has only come about after years upon years of political disengagement.

this is excellent from the Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...s-and-analysis

it shows the voting by region, demographic, etc

[amogles]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Looking at the voting patterns of this referendum show just how screwed up and divided the country has become. London + Scotland vote remain. Everywhere else votes leave. Higher educated people vote remain, working classes vote leave. Young people vote remain, older people vote leave. Surely this has only come about after years upon years of political disengagement.

I think voting patterns have always followed demographic, geographic and social lines. I don't think this is new. Especially not in the UK which even though we often struggle to admit it, is still much more of a class defined society than most of our European neighbours.

[bigblue2]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Looking at the voting patterns of this referendum show just how screwed up and divided the country has become. London + Scotland vote remain. Everywhere else votes leave. Higher educated people vote remain, working classes vote leave. Young people vote remain, older people vote leave. Surely this has only come about after years upon years of political disengagement.

for years the dirty working class have been told there are no jobs because of those pesky europeans coming here and stealing them all (who oddly manage to find jobs no problem at all)

and for years people have been told the nhs is in trouble because of all those pesky foreigners coming over and using it when they are not entitled to.

Of course all previous governments could have easily cleared these 'issues' up, every legal UK resident has an NI card, show that at the hospital / Dr's and you get treated, no card? - how would sir like to pay?

sort out the benefits system so the workshy british idiot isn't better off dropping more kids, and watching jeremry kyle on tv all day, seriously, that johnny foreigner can come here, speak multiple languages, work all the hours god sends doing some menial task, live, eat, and send money back home to support there family, but you can't find a job????

all of which would be huge vote losers

	Quote:	RufusB
	Yep. I've stuck LR in front of Toy Story 2 so I can watch the news... It's all conjecture. Farage is still flapping his mouth, however. Swisstree - are you certain there's not a little bit of space in your cellar?

No, sorry - depending on what Boris says in 40 minutes, I might have to set some hair traps and lock 'im up, along with Juncker.

Do you think he wanted a Brexit to bring back the more powerful hairdryers to keep his mane in check?

[bigblue2]

	Quote:	Swisstree
	No, sorry - depending on what Boris says in 40 minutes, I might have to set some hair traps and lock 'im up, along with Juncker. Do you think he wanted a Brexit to bring back the more powerful hairdryers to keep his maine in check?

derestricted dyson's can't wait

	Quote:	bigblue2
	derestricted dyson's can't wait

Yes, we need our powerful sucker uppers back, and the hard hot blowers

[Ace1]

	Quote:	Phil_MCR
	I'm starting a new thread

Was a good idea, but too much ongoing discussing in the older thread, so I merged them.

[Tasebo]

Listening to BBC radio option (words more than enough w/o the visuals) - discussion of whether vote should have included 16-17 year olds. Given the breakdown of voting based on younger vs older people, I say without question YES.

I remember the greatest entitlement of turning 18 was the right to vote, yet many still ignore that right - perhaps having had a waiver in this election while raising structured and responsible teaching/learning around government and political awareness in schools should be a mandate for educational policy.

(As a parent of 2 teens who spent most of their formative years (10 yrs in total) living in UK (under free movement, though one eligible for British citizenship which we will now be applying for as it seems more important to her than we ever could have foreseen 17 years ago) and consider themselves more British than any other place we have settled, I think their plans and ideas surrounding their future have gained added uncertainty.)