The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	Breaking BMW may shift Mini and engine work from UK in no-deal Brexit https://news.sky.com/story/bmw-may-shift-mini-and-engine-work-from-uk-in-no-deal-brexit-11655739

Perhaps they will become more reliable Bigblue has a lot of issues with his.

[Blueangel]

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@JoelTaylorhack

56m56 minutes ago

Bercow just told a Labour MP off for shouting 'ahoy there' towards Chris Grayling
https://twitter.com/JoelTaylorhack/s...15846689701889

[bigblue2]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Perhaps they will become more reliable Bigblue has a lot of issues with his.

had, which is why I'd never have another, but that was when they used french engines lol

[Mikers]

	Quote:	k_and_e
	It's funny that the country of BSE and horse meat scandals is now so worried about the quality of imported meat.

BSE is a great topic of conversation, albeit it a bit outside the EU debate. Thing is, it seems to have such a huge reputation, like its some massive killer and never-again scandal.

since it was discovered at the last count looks like 177 people have died from vCJD. 177 over 26 years. so about 7 people a year. 13 people die on average in fishing accidents each year.

this is not to say the above comment isnt right about imported meat etc etc and I dont mean anything against your comment k_and_e. I just tend to chuckle at the mass panic that can still come across some people's faces at the mention of british beef and bse. mud sticks as they say.

[StirB]

	Quote:	Mikers
	BSE is a great topic of conversation, albeit it a bit outside the EU debate. Thing is, it seems to have such a huge reputation, like its some massive killer and never-again scandal. since it was discovered at the last count looks like 177 people have died from vCJD. 177 over 26 years. so about 7 people a year. 13 people die on average in fishing accidents each year. this is not to say the above comment isnt right about imported meat etc etc and I dont mean anything against your comment k_and_e. I just tend to chuckle at the mass panic that can still come across some people's faces at the mention of british beef and bse. mud sticks as they say.

Indeed - I wonder how many people die worldwide annually because of our inability to give blood? I would assume a hefty multiple of 7.

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	StirB
	Indeed - I wonder how many people die worldwide annually because of our inability to give blood? I would assume a hefty multiple of 7.

Brits can give blood in the UK, I don't believe a worldwide ban exists so I suspect the true answer is not multiples of 7.

[StirB]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Brits can give blood in the UK, I don't believe a worldwide ban exists so I suspect the true answer is not multiples of 7.

Of course there is no worldwide ban - there is no organization that could enforce this, but many countries do not allow people who lived in Britain between the 80s and mid 90s to donate...e.g.

USA
Most of Europe
Australia
Canada
HK
etc etc

	Quote:	Mikers
	BSE is a great topic of conversation, albeit it a bit outside the EU debate. Thing is, it seems to have such a huge reputation, like its some massive killer and never-again scandal. since it was discovered at the last count looks like 177 people have died from vCJD. 177 over 26 years. so about 7 people a year. 13 people die on average in fishing accidents each year. this is not to say the above comment isnt right about imported meat etc etc and I dont mean anything against your comment k_and_e. I just tend to chuckle at the mass panic that can still come across some people's faces at the mention of british beef and bse. mud sticks as they say.

Second wave could be on its way:

30000 may have human form of mad cow disease
Many more people could still die from mad cow disease in the UK

[bigblue2]

	Quote:	StirB
	Of course there is no worldwide ban - there is no organization that could enforce this, but many countries do not allow people who lived in Britain between the 80s and mid 90s to donate...e.g. USA Most of Europe Australia Canada HK etc etc

Switzerland

[Mikers]

	Quote:	StirB
	Indeed - I wonder how many people die worldwide annually because of our inability to give blood? I would assume a hefty multiple of 7.

so the loss is people who were in the UK during the mid 90's who no longer live in the UK and now need to give a blood transfusion which cannot be sourced otherwise and the lack of which results in the loss of life.

yeah, must be millions.

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	StirB
	Of course there is no worldwide ban - there is no organization that could enforce this, but many countries do not allow people who lived in Britain between the 80s and mid 90s to donate...e.g. USA Most of Europe Australia Canada HK etc etc

So we are not talking about countries where people die daily due to lack of blood available from donors.

Perhaps they successfully used the company car exemption?

[marton]

	Quote:
	Traffic jams built up on Tuesday around the French port of Calais as customs officers worked to rule, carrying out tighter checks on lorries heading for the Channel Tunnel and the ferry port. The action, which began on Monday, is aimed at improving pay and staff numbers ahead of the UK's expected departure from the EU on 29 March. Dunkirk, further up the French coast, is also affected. "Brexit is a catalyst for deeper anger," said one union official.

Source

Actually seems to be working better than expected with 3 hour delays in Calais and several Km of traffic jams

[StirB]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	So we are not talking about countries where people die daily due to lack of blood available from donors.

There don't seem to be stats on this, unfortunately. America is running out of blood though...

https://www.redcrossblood.org/local-...-shortage.html

There are similar articles for AUS, CAN etc. Platelets only last 5 days, so a constant supply is needed.

So it isn't unreasonable to think there are people dying from a lack of blood, or at least that some will in the future. There's over a million Brits living in North America (and even more people who lived in the UK between 1980-1996) who are a potential source of blood.

[Odile]

Victoria station - first time ever- security checks and identity checks for coaches from Continent- under the Anti-social Act 2014?!?

Welcome to Brexit Britain. Passengers travelling from other UK stations pulled in into search because they 'look foreign'.

https://www.facebook.com/carmen12345...7164837567542/

Later edit - so exceptional circumstances it seems - strikes and queues in Calais and some suspect parcels at several UK transport hubs- so ...

[mediasapiens]

	Quote:	StirB
	Of course there is no worldwide ban - there is no organization that could enforce this, but many countries do not allow people who lived in Britain between the 80s and mid 90s to donate...e.g. USA Most of Europe Australia Canada HK etc etc

Can someone think of an excellent joke? I know it is somewhere there.

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	Odile
	Victoria station - first time ever- security checks and identity checks for coaches from Continent- under the Anti-social Act 2014?!? Welcome to Brexit Britain. Passengers travelling from other UK stations pulled in into search because they 'look foreign'. https://www.facebook.com/carmen12345...7164837567542/ Later edit - so exceptional circumstances it seems - strikes and queues in Calais and some suspect parcels at several UK transport hubs- so ...

So like CH every day! Of course before Schengen there was virtually zero passport control entering the UK with a British or EU passport, the problems came after allowing the Swiss in without filling in a landing card

[curley]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	So like CH every day! Of course before Schengen there was virtually zero passport control entering the UK with a British or EU passport, the problems came after allowing the Swiss in without filling in a landing card

And you wouldn't believe how hard I always had to fight to be allowed in the non-EU queue!
Teeth, claws and harsh logic managed me to get a "but next time you must ...!"

[Odile]

Has anyone encountered this kind of security and baggage check at any Swiss train station? Please give detail.

As for Swiss having to queue in separate queue, I have said it before. Pre EU and reciprocal agreements with CH - Swiss nationals had to queue with 'aliens' - as a young mother of a small baby, I was required to leave the baby with British OH in a separate queue. And I know some of you don't believe it - but that is not my problem.

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	Odile
	Has anyone encountered this kind of security and baggage check at any Swiss train station? Please give detail. As for Swiss having to queue in separate queue, I have said it before. Pre EU and reciprocal agreements with CH - Swiss nationals had to queue with 'aliens' - as a young mother of a small baby, I was required to leave the baby with British OH in a separate queue. And I know some of you don't believe it - but that is not my problem.

It's only since December 2008 that the Swiss could use the EU queue when entering the UK. Thats about when the Brits had to queue for the first time as before Schengen you just walked in & waved a passport.

[Sandgrounder]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	It's only since December 2008 that the Swiss could use the EU queue when entering the UK. Thats about when the Brits had to queue for the first time as before Schengen you just walked in & waved a passport.

Err nope. I’ve flown with Swiss people into the UK since 2003 and they’ve always joined me in the EU queue. No idea what airports you’ve been using. Channel Islands, maybe?