The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[John William]

Only 21 more May days before Brexit day and here's the latest May day from Theresa May.


BBC News - Brexit: Only one more push needed to get the deal through, says May

[Odile]

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presente...h3iT1mMC5pqe8E

Dame Margaret Beckett, spot on re Theresa May.

[marton]

Mr Barnier tweeted today that the only UK would be able to leave the backstop unilaterally, if it did it effectively left Northern Ireland inside the arrangement, which would ensure there is no hard border with the Republic – something Ms May has already said no to and which her DUP allies in government would certainly vote down in the commons.

[Odile]

Brexit just is not possible.

Blair explains this well, and provides the only possible solution:

https://www.facebook.com/institutegl...5453721770749/

[Odile]

Oh and for a laugh- I am the hippy granny:

http://ow.ly/p9ZH30niDPS

And one not so funny from Deborah Meaden: a little Deborah - what an understatement- oh and they blame the EU for intransigeance ?!?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...rF9O4iWJBEtaUG

So, have I got this right? May tells MPs it is my deal or no deal, then it's her deal or we are stuck in the EU. And now, if she doesn't get her deal through next week, it is all the inflexible, evil EU's fault as her deal requires the EU to iron out the difficulties she is having with the backstop and controlling the tory party nutters and the DUP.

In the next few days, we could very well see May standing on a hill top shaking her fists at the skies and blaming the Gods for her unworkable deal.

I don't want to look - this madness is very painful to witness.

[John William]

With Theresa May still banging her head against the Irish backstop brick wall & a no deal Brexit
looming ever larger with only 20 days to go.
It's time for British Expats to reminisce of days of yore, when Britain were last outside
the EU, the EEC or as it was back then, The Common Market and where better than with
a Clarkson's package holiday to Spain in 1970.

Where are Clarkson's now ? - the company collapsed in August 1974.

So be sure to have your dark blue British passports to hand, British driving license accompanied
by the requisite International driving permit applicable for the continent and for those bringing
their own cars on holiday; that all important Green card in the glove compartment.

So lets break out the news reels and have Mary Hopkins, singing Those were the days my
friend and indulge in unrequited nostalgia that Brexit loves to resurrect for us again !!

Clarkson's package holidays to Spain 1970

Mary Hopkins sings - Those were the Days my Friend

[marton]

Sad summary by CNN of all the broken Brexit promises;

Source

I had missed the speech last month by Gertjan Vlieghe, a member of the Bank of England’s monetary policy committee. He estimated the weekly cost of Brexit so far is more than double the £350m the Leave campaign claimed could be saved.

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	Claims of "sunlit uplands" have been replaced by assurances that Brexit "will not be the end of the world," as May said last August on a trade mission to Africa.

[Urs Max]

Don't worry, there'll always be May to blame.

Leavers will keep ignoring the fact that there simply is no workable solution for the backstop, or any of its variants, and that there never was one to begin with.

Unless they accepted Northern Ireland leaving the UK, assuming the North Irish would even want to.

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	Unless they accepted Northern Ireland leaving the UK, assuming the North Irish would even want to.

Better solution: England leaves the UK. The Rump UK (Scotland and Northern Ireland) gets to stay in the EU, no backstop, no angry Scotnats; England gets to be free of the EU and all it entails, not to mention NI and Scotland!

I'd vote for that!

[John William]

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	Better solution: England leaves the UK. The Rump UK (Scotland and Northern Ireland) gets to stay in the EU, no backstop, no angry Scotnats; England gets to be free of the EU and all it entails, not to mention NI and Scotland! I'd vote for that!

Yes like Turkey's voting for Christmas but there again what has England become thanks to Brexit - a joke !!

	Quote:	John William
	Yes like Turkey's voting for Christmas but there again what has England become thanks to Brexit - a joke !!

I'd rather be a joke than a Russian bot.

[John William]

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	I'd rather be a joke than a Russian bot.

Frankly there's too many Ostriches behind Brexit !!

Head in the sand and all that jazz !!

	Quote:	John William
	Frankly there's too many Ostriches behind Brexit !!

I like the way your AI has even incorporated grammatical and spelling errors to make you look like a real person. Clever stuff!

[John William]

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	I like the way your AI has even incorporated grammatical and spelling errors to make you look like a real person. Clever stuff!

Yes I must admit to an air of superiority over the half wits in the ERG but there again - doesn't take much effort does it ?

	Quote:	John William
	Yes I must admit to an air of superiority over the half wits in the ERG but there again - doesn't take much effort does it ?

Actually, I should imagine the programming involved in creating a robot which can maintain something resembling an actual human conversation is pretty advanced. I remember chatting with robots way back in the 1990s, and they really struggled to sound like people. There was an awful lot of "what do you think?" and "oh, really?" responses.

Your programming is quite effective, although it's obvious that now we've gone off-script your algorithms (or whatever they're called - I'm no IT spod!) are struggling to keep up.

Looking forward to seeing your response. Maybe if I sprinkle a couple of key words in here: Boris Johnson, 350 million, bus

[amogles]

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	Looking forward to seeing your response. Maybe if I sprinkle a couple of key words in here: Boris Johnson, 350 million, bus

Wrong trigger words. That's Odile you're thinking of.

[Sky]

Are you seriously saying some people aren't real here ?

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	Are you seriously saying some people aren't real here ?

Yup. "John William" only posts on one topic, throws random pebbles into the thread, doesn't actually engage in conversation like a human being. Look back at his responses to my posts above: he's a computer program. A pretty good one, to be fair, but still not human.

When he comes back I'm going to ask him what he'd do if he found a turtle on its back in the desert...

[marton]

	Quote:	Sky
	Are you seriously saying some people aren't real here ?

Of course we are all real here.... real ....real ....eal ....here ....real ...@#re ...reboot