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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Old 12.03.2019, 12:58
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Congratulations to Geoffrey Cox, Attorney General, for resisting considerable political pressure when writing his opinion.
No challenge to Blueangel!
I think the lesson here is what happened Goldsmith's reputation after the legal advice that he gave over Iraq. No self respecting lawyer would want to suffer the same.
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Old 12.03.2019, 13:00
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I think we've all had enough of James O'Brien's brain farts. Especially since your mate Rees-Mogg went on his show and made a complete fool of him.
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Old 12.03.2019, 13:04
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I think we've all had enough of James O'Brien's brain farts. Especially since your mate Rees-Mogg went on his show and made a complete fool of him.
Wow, is that really how you saw that interview go? I mean, really?
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Question is, when this vote gets smashed down again tonight, will Theresa May finally go? It could be the case now that the government will get brought down. With this legal advice it's clear that not only is she a hopeless negotiator, but that she's also not trustworthy.
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I particularly like the last point...

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Wow, is that really how you saw that interview go? I mean, really?
Errr, yeah?

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Old 12.03.2019, 13:12
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Still waiting for JRM to answer a question, any question.
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Old 12.03.2019, 13:36
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The business moves, other economies strengthen in relation to a weakened currency. It’s pretty basic economics really. Unless I am missing something here? Please enlighten me.
That was a one-time effect as it happened in a short time, but not in the following years. Actually the GBP has gained back some of those losses afterwards.

So the question remains unanswered.

Anyways, Somerset Capital is a capital management company. They make their money from managing and investing other people's money, not from the gains off those investments (although they need to be competitive of course). Brexit has no effect on that.
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Old 12.03.2019, 13:59
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Yeah.

Just listened to the whole thing. I guess it helps explain where your views come from if you think that.
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Old 12.03.2019, 14:56
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The change in the law a couple of years ago made trusts much less of a tax dodge, bringing trusts that previously had tax advantages back into the system.

We have seen from the accounts that he has huggable taxable income, why would a wealthy person risk prison due to tax evasion? It really does not make any sense.


Not really anymore for a UK domiciled resident other than ISA's open to everybody, pensions have a tiny limit & benefits are taxable. Unless they are 100% legal it's not worth someone in public life taking such a risk, plenty of jealous lefties trying to catch him out. Anyway it's his wife who is really rich from inherited wealth, not JRM
It's a real eye-opener that in this Brexit frenzy over the past two plus years how the Leavers have cast all self-respect aside in favour of holding the hardline Brexiteers in some kind of infallible deity status.

The excruciating lengths that they go to to defend, simper, excuse and shield is quite breath-taking.

I have my own view on politics but cannot for one second believe that anyone is as god-like as is sometimes portrayed here. Everyone has their faults and everyone has their price. Especially those in power and especially those who are used to privilege and favour.

Just hope you're not going to be disappointed - it's a long, long way to crash.

Maybe that's why I'm in favour of the EU. They seem to be able to see right through all the bullshit.
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Old 12.03.2019, 15:05
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So who is then? & what is/was your point?
In short it was just an observation that the Leave supporters seem willing to go to extraordinary cringey lengths to swallow any kind of bullshit, provided it comes from their hardline Brexiteers.

Don't you think to question anything that comes from them?
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Old 12.03.2019, 15:10
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In short it was just an observation that the Leave supporters seem willing to go to extraordinary cringey lengths to swallow any kind of bullshit, provided it comes from their hardline Brexiteers.

Don't you think to question anything that comes from them?
What they say seems to make perfect sense, the UK will be better out of the EU preferably with no deal. Can't wait
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Old 12.03.2019, 18:23
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Nissan is ending the production of the Infiniti Q30 and QX30 sport utility vehicle in the United Kingdom, by the middle of this year. Luckily nothing to do with Brexit.

Nissan said in early February that it would reverse plans to build its X-Trail model in Britain, choosing instead to manufacture the SUV in Japan
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Nissan is ending the production of the Infiniti Q30 and QX30 sport utility vehicle in the United Kingdom, by the middle of this year. Luckily nothing to do with Brexit.

Nissan said in early February that it would reverse plans to build its X-Trail model in Britain, choosing instead to manufacture the SUV in Japan
Indeed nothing to do with Brexit. Infiniti is leaving Western Europe
https://www.carscoops.com/2019/03/in...n-this-summer/
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Indeed nothing to do with Brexit. Infiniti is leaving Western Europe
https://www.carscoops.com/2019/03/in...n-this-summer/
Wonder why they no longer view Western Europe as a good market for luxury vehicles; it is a real puzzle?
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Wonder why they no longer view Western Europe as a good market for luxury vehicles; it is a real puzzle?
How often do you see an Infiniti?
The brand has just failed to become a success in Europe.
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I should have taken the Clueangel challenge
Theresa May’s deal has been defeated again by 391 votes to 242 - a majority of 149
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Well, looking a lot like no deal Brexit now.
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I'm starting to think that just maybe there are some people in Britain who aren't so keen on this Brexit idea.
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Well, looking a lot like no deal Brexit now.
Or no Brexit, you can just drop the "deal" part. Let's see how the next vote goes.
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