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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
Voters: 212. You may not vote on this poll

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I wonder if that statistic includes the House of Commons?
You can sum that up in two people's recent voting records, BoJo and Gove, and I wouldn't let either loose with a sharp object unsupervised.

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Old 14.03.2019, 16:26
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There's a certain irony in all this, isn't there? The PM repeatedly holding the same vote until they get the desired result.

To quote Marton; you couldn't make it up.
Please help me: What is the desired result?
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Old 14.03.2019, 16:30
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Please help me: What is the desired result?
Depends which side of the Brexit fence you are sitting on.
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Please help me: What is the desired result?
Theresa May wants her deal approved even though every man and his dog says it's a pile of the brown stuff, regardless of whether they voted Leave or remain.
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Old 14.03.2019, 16:35
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There's a certain irony in all this, isn't there? The PM repeatedly holding the same vote until they get the desired result.

To quote Marton; you couldn't make it up.
the desired outcome:

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Depends which side of the Brexit fence you are sitting on.
I wonder if I will live long enough then ......
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I wonder if I will live long enough then ......
Brexit extension likely to be the end of May.






Ba-dum-tsss...
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Old 14.03.2019, 16:39
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I wonder if I will live long enough then ......
I reckon I'll have fallen off my perch before this is sorted
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Theresa May wants her deal approved even though every man and his dog says it's a pile of the brown stuff, regardless of whether they voted Leave or remain.
But that is off the table for two days now.
And no-deal is off the table since last night.
The iceberg will not move either.
So the only thing left is "April's fool, of course we're in".

Or of course "can we prolong making a fool of ourselves please?"
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You can sum that up in two people's recent voting records, BoJo and Gove, and I wouldn't let either loose with a sharp object unsupervised.
All the more reason to not supervise them.
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Old 14.03.2019, 17:09
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A trend independent of barriers and the UK. With themes like global warming and increased environmental awareness, I cannot imagine that it will be forever acceptable to fly steaks around the world.

which, maybe ironically, is very bad news for countries like Argentina that have weak internal economies and so are strongly reliant on exports. And seeing there isn't much demand for Argentinian cars or TVs outside of Argentina, it's mostly food that they export.
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Why doesn't the UK just pretend that they have left the EU?


Brexiteers are happy.

Remainers are happy.
May can claim that she has negotiated a deal that it so good that it looks like UK is part of the EU but still a sovereign state.
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But that is off the table for two days now.

You wish. Meaningful vote 3 next week unless Bercow invokes ErskineMay
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Old 14.03.2019, 17:20
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Why doesn't the UK just pretend that they have left the EU?


Brexiteers are happy.

Remainers are happy.
May can claim that she has negotiated a deal that it so good that it looks like UK is part of the EU but still a sovereign state.
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You wish. Meaningful vote 3 next week unless Bercow invokes ErskineMay
Had to google that.

So they got "advisory votes" and "meaningful votes" and logic tells me "unmeanigful votes"
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Why doesn't the UK just pretend that they have left the EU?


Brexiteers are happy.

Remainers are happy.
May can claim that she has negotiated a deal that it so good that it looks like UK is part of the EU but still a sovereign state.
isn't that essentially what Switzerland has.
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But that is off the table for two days now.
And no-deal is off the table since last night.
The reality is that neither are legally off the table yet, that's why a load of QCs are collaborating to tie this all up with watertight amendments that can be swiftly ratified.
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The reality is that neither are legally off the table yet, that's why a load of QCs are collaborating to tie this all up with watertight amendments that can be swiftly ratified.
So all this voting is for who's benefit?

Sorry, Swiss.
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So all this voting is for who's benefit?

Sorry, Swiss.
I'm as lost as you are. And to think after all this - the original referendum was only advisory, not binding. In hindsight, perhaps leadership should have looked very carefully at what it would take to actually leave the EU before committing to such an action.
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So all this voting is for who's benefit?

Sorry, Swiss.
Please don't ever be sorry for asking a perfectly good question. I admire that you make more of an effort to understand than a hell of a lot of Brits do.

As for the answer, we shall have to wait and see.
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You wish. Meaningful vote 3 next week unless Bercow invokes ErskineMay
What does the word "meaningful" mean in the context of the first two meaningful votes?

Sorry, Australian.
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