The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[Medea Fleecestealer]

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So you think because the EU fails everyone is going to go to war with one another.

[dawiz]

	Quote:	Medea Fleecestealer
	So Scottish voters knew there was a chance the UK would vote to leave in the future, yet they still decided to remain part of the UK.

To remain fair here: the Scots were threatened that they'd be kicked out of the EU if they voted in favor of quitting the UK. The prospect of a referendum, which still wasn't certain to take place at that time, probably was the lesser of two evils for many voters.

[porsch1909]

	Quote:	dawiz
	To remain fair here: the Scots were threatened that they'd be kicked out of the EU if they voted in favor of quitting the UK. The prospect of a referendum, which still wasn't certain to take place at that time, probably was the lesser of two evils for many voters.

You can bet your bottom dollar that Sturgeon is on the phone to everyone that matters in the EU to ensure that if indyref 2 goes to a yes (probably a landslide yes) that Scotland can remain in the EU and not have to leave and reapply.

BOOM: motion of no confidence has been submitted against Corbyn.

[dawiz]

	Quote:	porsch1909
	You can bet your bottom dollar that Sturgeon is on the phone to everyone that matters in the EU to ensure that if indyref 2 goes to a yes (probably a landslide yes) that Scotland can remain in the EU and not have to leave and reapply.

That's pretty much what she said she'd try. Perhaps it wouldn't be that worst thing for England - that way, the EU would get some sort of twisted revenge and they could start negotiations from neutral positions.

[Phil_MCR]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	BOOM: motion of no confidence has been submitted against Corbyn.

It's a political bloodbath

[Phil_MCR]

	Quote:	dawiz
	That's pretty much what she said she'd try. Perhaps it wouldn't be that worst thing for England - that way, the EU would get some sort of twisted revenge and they could start negotiations from neutral positions.

Scotland aren't going to get another referendum any time soon. I suspect they'll already be out of the EU and the terms of re-entry will not be attractive.

	Quote:	Phil_MCR
	It's a political bloodbath

It's pure opportunism. Whatever you think about Corbyn, he had nothing to do with this. Maybe that was the problem?

[bigblue2]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	BOOM: motion of no confidence has been submitted against Corbyn.

live by the sword ...

Was always puzzling why someone who was so out before he became leader suddenly became remain, I guess the old saying is true, power corrupts, he gambled, he lost, he has ZERO credibility

[Medea Fleecestealer]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	BOOM: motion of no confidence has been submitted against Corbyn.

Yep, news here:

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36621777

Nicola Sturgeon has already made the announcement re a new referendum for Scottish independence asap- wonder if NI will ask to join.

[JagWaugh]

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	Finally found the reason for the disaster of yesterday: The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. Winston Churchill

The beeb just interviewed a young couple in Manchester airport. She voted leave, he voted remain. She now says if she were to vote again she would vote remain.... She feels that the politicians misled her and she didn't fully understand the implications.


wtf, she ignored half of 6 months of being bombarded with implications, but now after 6 hours she has seen that she made a mistake.
???

	Quote:	Castro
	The most cogent statement I've read all week ----------- Australia has had five prime ministers in five years

Cute soundbite, but factually wrong. Australia has had four PMs in the last 5 years, and only two governments. It's just been change at the top, which given the Westminster system of government, has nothing to do with voter dissatisfaction: the PM is not directly elected. If you're looking for a stable economy, Australia's your poster child.

[amogles]

	Quote:	Medea Fleecestealer
	Yep, news here: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36621777

horse, bolted, stable door.

Either he conducted the campaign correctly, in which case it is a shared defeat, or he conducted it wrongly, in which case they should have removed him while it could still have made a difference.

Or is he just being made into the scapegoat?

[amogles]

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	Nicola Sturgeon has already made the announcement re a new referendum for Scottish independence asap- wonder if NI will ask to join.

don't you mean leave?

or should they be joining Scotland?

[Faltrad]

	Quote:	JagWaugh
	She voted leave, he voted remain. She now says if she were to vote again she would vote remain....

Yes, but there must also be people who voted remain out of fear for the unknown and are happily exited that the others were more courageous to make the jump. With 4 points difference in a referendum, the majority is clear. I don't like it but I like the clarity of the situation.

	Quote:	Medea Fleecestealer
	So you think because the EU fails everyone is going to go to war with one another.

If you look closely you'll see it's only plague and famine who are celebrating - the other two voted for independence from The Four and are about to ride off to new careers as pin-ups for the UKIP.

[amogles]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	How does this work?

Reminds me of Erich Honnecker back in 1988 predicting the wall was to stay for another 40 years.

	Quote:	amogles
	Or is he just being made into the scapegoat?

Well he's always had a somewhat goat-y air about him, now that you mention it.

[porsch1909]

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	Nicola Sturgeon has already made the announcement re a new referendum for Scottish independence asap- wonder if NI will ask to join.

NI join Scotland? What an utterly daft thing to say.

NI to have a referendum to join a united Irish republic....more likely.