The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[greenmount]

	Quote:	3Wishes
	Oy, thanks for clarifying. This thread is a blur to keep up with.

I want someone to spell it out for me - will there be any Brexit anymore or...no, but yes, but no, computers says no?

	Quote:	greenmount
	I want someone to spell it out for me - will there be any Brexit anymore or...no, but yes, but no, computers says no?

Yes, no deal Brexit

[Blueangel]

More fines for Vote Leave...

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	Vote Leave LimitedDate 19 March 2019TypeMonetary penaltiesSector Political The Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO) has fined Vote Leave Limited £40,000 for sending out thousands of unsolicited text messages in the run up to the 2016 EU referendum.

https://ico.org.uk/action-weve-taken...leave-limited/

	Quote:	marton
	Meanwhile some good news Source

Completely in line with what I was expecting when I wrote the below a month or 2 back:

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	...as I mentioned earlier in the thread, a fair assumption is that the huge inventory build-up over the last months has been keeping the UK economy afloat. Once that ends it's going to be difficult and once companies start de-stocking things are likely to turn rather negative purely because of this effect. Quite apart from the negative Brexit hit.

	Quote:	greenmount
	I want someone to spell it out for me - will there be any Brexit anymore or...no, but yes, but no, computers says no?

No Brexit.. big dithery delay coming.

And all those Irish passports for nothing.

[amogles]

	Quote:	Swisstree
	And all those Irish passports for nothing.

Not at all.

Gives you all the more justification for celebrating St Patrick's day.

[curley]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	More fines for Vote Leave... https://ico.org.uk/action-weve-taken...leave-limited/

Vote Leave Ltd. ? Wow! Who owns that company/the shares?
I'm trying to imagine, Blocher founded a "Keine Moscheen AG"

What does such a company do after the ballot? Close down?
Was/is there a Brexit Ltd. as well?

As they are being fined for sms-advertising, this now must be a precedence for all such advertising by all companies in GB. Which would be pretty cool, actually.

	Quote:	Swisstree
	No Brexit.. big dithery delay coming. And all those Irish passports for nothing.

On the plus side, they can still have their blue British passports because that was nothing to do with the EU in the first place...

	Quote:	amogles
	Not at all. Gives you all the more justification for celebrating St Patrick's day.

I am Irish and I left the passport renewal run over by about a year, or more.. waiting for the queue to die down.

I will renew it on the 1st of April.

[curley]

	Quote:	Swisstree
	...... And all those Irish passports for nothing.

Not for nothing. All those Brits who now have an Irish passport can now have this amazing experience to vote and it actually counts!

How often do the Irish vote a year? The masses that will be pilgriming there, just to have this momentous experience (Mecca will be peanuts in comparison) .... that's for the Brits. As for the Irish: Hotel-, pub-, souvenir business will thrive several times a year.

Irish passports? A total win-win situation.

New vote is not ruled out despite Bercow's decision.

Nick Boles, a former Tory minister and advocate of a softer Brexit, also said the significance of Mr Bercow’s intervention was being overstated.

“Not sure what all the fuss is about,” he wrote on Twitter. “If the PM thinks she has a majority for a third meaningful vote, she will also have a majority for a motion to set aside the Speaker’s ruling . . . If she doesn’t, no point making the attempt.”

[eng_ch]

UKGov advice on cross-border services with Switzerland - published this morning:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/switzerl...-after-eu-exit


About as informative as the rest of the info coming out of UKGov

[3Wishes]

	Quote:	Swisstree
	New vote is not ruled out despite Bercow's decision. Nick Boles, a former Tory minister and advocate of a softer Brexit, also said the significance of Mr Bercow’s intervention was being overstated. “Not sure what all the fuss is about,” he wrote on Twitter. “If the PM thinks she has a majority for a third meaningful vote, she will also have a majority for a motion to set aside the Speaker’s ruling . . . If she doesn’t, no point making the attempt.”

That makes sense, then. If she's got the votes, she's got the votes. The speaker's ruling makes sure she doesn't go up for a 3rd resounding defeat.

(I guess?)

	Quote:	3Wishes
	That makes sense, then. If she's got the votes, she's got the votes. The speaker's ruling makes sure she doesn't go up for a 3rd resounding defeat. (I guess?)

Yes, you would think that.. but then Dominic Grieve has just come out and said that even if there is a majority for May's deal, that doesn't necessarily mean a majority will put aside Bercow's ruling. They are two completely different matters entirely.

	Quote:	Swisstree
	Nick Boles... wrote “If the PM thinks she has a majority for a third meaningful vote, she will also have a majority for a motion to set aside the Speaker’s ruling”

What's the point of the Speaker being empowered to make decisions if those decisions can be overturned by a simple majority (which the government usually has, along party lines)?

[SponPlague]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	More fines for Vote Leave... https://ico.org.uk/action-weve-taken...leave-limited/

After they had agreed with the ICO to delete the data!

https://order-order.com/2019/03/19/v...agreed-delete/

You couldn’t make it up...

EU just passed a new ruling where one only has to have worked for only one month in another EU country to have the right for unemployed money according to the standards of the country where that one month has been worked. Time worked in other country's is needed and counts along but the height of the allowance is purely based on that one last month. Also they can take this allowance back home.

Only one thing left to say...

GO BREXIT

Bunch of lunatics in the EU.

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	EU just passed a new ruling where one only has to have worked for only one month in another EU country to have the right for unemployed money according to the standards of the country where that one month has been worked. Time worked in other country's is needed and counts along but the height of the allowance is purely based on that one last month. Also they can take this allowance back home. Only one thing left to say... GO BREXIT Bunch of lunatics in the EU.

Link? Not finding it on Google.

[amogles]

	Quote:
	What's the point of the Speaker being empowered to make decisions if those decisions can be overturned by a simple majority (which the government usually has, along party lines)?

A simple majority can also remove the speaker and appoint another.

A simple majority can even remove the PM.

Or ban the wearing of green hats.

The system was set up on the assumption that most people are reasonable, and won't do such things except for a very good reason.

	Quote:
	Link? Not finding it on Google.

That's because it's actually the opposite. The proposal (which I guess has just been passed?) requires the applicant to have worked at least three months in a new country before aggregating total period of employment and claiming benefits at the rate provided by the new country.

#FakeNews #WhyReadPastTheHeadline? But it keeps the anti-EU fanbois (antifanbois?) happy.