The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[Blueangel]

...and it's crashed again! I saw it get to 692k though. Flying! That's more that 1,000 signatures per minute.

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	...and it's crashed again! I saw it get to 692k though. Flying! That's more that 1,000 signatures per minute.

I managed to click through and add my details but it hasn't sent me the email to confirm yet. Was awfully slow.

[Jim2007]

	Quote:	marton
	How come the Independent Group are less acceptable than Hamas and Hezbollah?

They are unarmed. Now if they had only called themselves something like the Independent Freedom Fighters Group, they'd have done alright with him.

[curley]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	The petition is back up and currently stands at 665,114 signatures.

How many by EU bots?

	Quote:	curley
	How many by EU bots?

It's not accepted until you respond to a confirmation email so it would cut out any automated bots.

[amogles]

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	It's not accepted until you respond to a confirmation email so it would cut out any automated bots.

Because writing a script to respond to an email is too difficult for a bot programmer?

I think what actually happens is that you can't sign without providing a valid postal code, and that theoretically that can be used to validate whether you are real, though I'm nor sure how thorough the process is.

	Quote:	amogles
	Because writing a script to respond to an email is too difficult for a bot programmer?

Dunno, i'm not a bot programmer. Maybe they should set up a "click all the boxes with a dog in them" kind of check or maybe your postal code thing works...

	Quote:	amogles
	I think what actually happens is that you can't sign without providing a valid postal code, and that theoretically that can be used to validate whether you are real, though I'm nor sure how thorough the process is.

[marton]

	Quote:	amogles
	Because writing a script to respond to an email is too difficult for a bot programmer? I think what actually happens is that you can't sign without providing a valid postal code, and that theoretically that can be used to validate whether you are real, though I'm nor sure how thorough the process is.

Or maybe they would notice if they got thousands of signers with the same email address?

[SponPlague]

https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Yes,_Minister

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	Bernard wheels in a petition from the archives against surveillance, containing 24 million signatures. Bernard: Shall I file it? Hacker: Shall you file it? Shred it! Bernard: Shred it? Hacker: No one must ever be able to find it again! Bernard: In that case, Minister, I think it's best I file it.

At 12:43, the petition at https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584 had 777,565 signatures. There were 639,302 two hours ago, according to Swisstree. I make that 1,152 signatures per minute -- over 19 per second. Remarkable.

[st2lemans]

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	At 12:43, the petition at https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584 had 777,565 signatures. There were 639,302 two hours ago, according to Swisstree. I make that 1,152 signatures per minute -- over 19 per second. Remarkable.

Does it matter in the real world?

Tom

[SponPlague]

https://order-order.com/2019/03/21/f...ke-signatures/

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	... blatantly fake signatures arising everywhere from Russia, to Afghanistan, to North Korea. Tens of thousands of signatures have also come from EU states including Jean Claude Juncker’s tiny Luxembourg…

[curley]

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	At 12:43, the petition at https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584 had 777,565 signatures. There were 639,302 two hours ago, according to Swisstree. I make that 1,152 signatures per minute -- over 19 per second. Remarkable.

Well, all those who originally voted remain will be signing. How many of those were there?
It becomes remarkable when after reaching that amount people sign at the same speed.

	Quote:	st2lemans
	Does it matter in the real world? Tom

No!

"Of the ten campaigns that garnered most signatures in 2016, four were denied a debate and none has so far succeeded in obtaining its intended outcome or implementing real change."

	Quote:	marton
	Or maybe they would notice if they got thousands of signers with the same email address?

If one wants to it is not hard to set up a script that generates mail addresses, signs the form and responds to the mail. One can also decide to spend some money, there are people specialised in giving you votes on whatever digital enquire you please.

Not saying it happens here, just saying it is technically not any problem to do so.

[st2lemans]

"Brexit: Revoke Article 50 petition crashes Parliament website"

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47652071

Tom

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	At 12:43, the petition at https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584 had 777,565 signatures. There were 639,302 two hours ago, according to Swisstree. I make that 1,152 signatures per minute -- over 19 per second. Remarkable.

Unrealistic imho.

[Blueangel]

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	Unrealistic imho.

How can something that is currently happening in real time, be unrealistic?

[Blueangel]

Just took two totals an hour apart:
13:01 - 724,397
14:01 - 803,141

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	Unrealistic imho.

There are 17 million confirmed Remainers and probably many more who would also want to revoke Art. 50; not so unrealistic!