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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Old 21.03.2019, 16:22
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Petition passes 1 million.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47652071
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Old 21.03.2019, 16:26
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LOL.

And what does GB need an extension for if they obey to this next week?

PS I heard that differently: They said the extension can last longest until May 23rd
After March 29th in the Commons are scheduled :
Easter Recess = 4th to 23rd April = 3 weeks off
1 week back on.
May Day Recess = 2nd to 7th May = 1 week off
2 weeks back on.
Whitsun Day Recess = 23rd May to 3rd June = 2 weeks off
8 weeks back on.
Summer holidays = 30th July to 4th September = 5 weeks off
Combined with scheduled EU hols (erm recess):
Legislative work in the European Parliament's eighth term ends on 18 April 2019
till May 23rd elections
negotiations on alliances until start of July when EU Parliament ends.
Summer holidays
business resumes on 22nd August
but little decisive activity until new EU Commission commences sometime in October.
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Old 21.03.2019, 16:29
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

I tend to believe they never learned from this:

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36640459
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Old 21.03.2019, 17:03
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

I'm puzzled

British parliament started this petition?



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After March 29th in the Commons are scheduled :
Easter Recess = 4th to 23rd April = 3 weeks off
1 week back on.
May Day Recess = 2nd to 7th May = 1 week off
2 weeks back on.
Whitsun Day Recess = 23rd May to 3rd June = 2 weeks off
8 weeks back on.
Summer holidays = 30th July to 4th September = 5 weeks off
Combined with scheduled EU hols (erm recess):
Legislative work in the European Parliament's eighth term ends on 18 April 2019
till May 23rd elections
negotiations on alliances until start of July when EU Parliament ends.
Summer holidays
business resumes on 22nd August
but little decisive activity until new EU Commission commences sometime in October.
tja .... when the job is arranged around the multiple vaccation .....
11 weeks a year!?! Only teachers do better.

Where I come from (! ) it's the other way around.
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Old 21.03.2019, 17:27
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I tend to believe they never learned from this:

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36640459
The voter must now confirm their vote by responding to an email. Not perfect, but much better than it was
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Old 21.03.2019, 17:28
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If parliament decides to withdraw article 50 based on the petition, does it then mean that a petition has a higher value than a referendum?


That would be a weird signal.
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Old 21.03.2019, 17:33
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If parliament decides to withdraw article 50 based on the petition, does it then mean that a petition has a higher value than a referendum?


That would be a weird signal.
I believe legally a petition at least has to be considered above a certain amount of signatures.

A referendum is in no way legally binding and has no legal status in our Representative Democracy.
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Old 21.03.2019, 17:34
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Oh dear

A No 10 spokeswoman said the Prime Minister "will not countenance" revoking Article 50.
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Old 21.03.2019, 17:35
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If parliament decides to withdraw article 50 based on the petition, does it then mean that a petition has a higher value than a referendum?


That would be a weird signal.
The petition is only there to cause a debate in parliament. It's up to them to then debate it.

Probably at some point in the dim and distant past there were sufficient signatures on a similar petition to trigger a debate on leaving the EU. They used to just hand in written signatures to No.10, when instead of being a bot, you just wrote "Mickey Mouse" on the sheet.
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Old 21.03.2019, 17:57
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The voter must now confirm their vote by responding to an email. Not perfect, but much better than it was
I was still amazed at how easy it is.

Automated scripts don't care for such "restriction", they can create mail addresses as quick as they can fill the form.
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Old 21.03.2019, 18:11
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Another rubbish meme! It is not possible to correctly compare Parliamentary constituencies with the referendum voting areas.

The Vote Leave manifesto was "take back control". So now our MPs in our sovereign Parliament exert their control you do not like it; so suck up what you voted for!
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Old 21.03.2019, 18:17
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Another rubbish meme! It is not possible to correctly compare Parliamentary constituencies with the referendum voting areas.
It must get tiring being wrong all the time?

Brexit: votes by constituency
Results of the 2016 United Kingdom European Union membership referendum
Results of the 2016 United Kingdom European Union membership referendum by constituency
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Old 21.03.2019, 18:17
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After March 29th in the Commons are scheduled :
Easter Recess = 4th to 23rd April = 3 weeks off
1 week back on.
May Day Recess = 2nd to 7th May = 1 week off
2 weeks back on.
Whitsun Day Recess = 23rd May to 3rd June = 2 weeks off
8 weeks back on.
Summer holidays = 30th July to 4th September = 5 weeks off
Combined with scheduled EU hols (erm recess):
Legislative work in the European Parliament's eighth term ends on 18 April 2019
till May 23rd elections
negotiations on alliances until start of July when EU Parliament ends.
Summer holidays
business resumes on 22nd August
but little decisive activity until new EU Commission commences sometime in October.
This is to give them the opportunity to visit their constituencies and communicate with their voters. Sitting in Westminster kind off cuts them off from their grass roots!
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Old 21.03.2019, 18:29
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

And in Europe they are saying, ”Sure, you can have a short extension, IF parliament approves the deal first”.

That would be the deal twice rejected by parliament and that the speaker won’t accept again unless changed.

So, no extension then.
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Old 21.03.2019, 18:30
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

You still fail to read the links you post?
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In total we now know the result of the EU referendum for 169 Parliamentary constituencies (just over a quarter of the 650 constituencies in the UK).
The remaining 480 constituencies have estimated results but nobody knows if these estimates are accurate.
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I believe legally a petition at least has to be considered above a certain amount of signatures.

A referendum is in no way legally binding and has no legal status in our Representative Democracy.
so then let's go for a non-binding but meaningful deal.
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Old 21.03.2019, 18:39
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You still fail to read the links you post?
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The remaining 480 constituencies have estimated results but nobody knows if these estimates are accurate.
But how are those results of any interest if only the total amount of votes on Yer or No matters?

Am I missing something?
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Old 21.03.2019, 18:43
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I hope we remain in Europe, but I also hope out of this that the nasty, bullying, short-person-syndrome, power-hungry bell end that is John Bercow gets a right trashing.
After all this you want to throw Bercow (of all people) under the bus? I suppose if May is driving the bus over him that would suit you?

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You seem to have misspelled "Theresa May", but Lolz says we're not allowed to pick posters up on their grammatical and orthographic mistakes any more.
That's what I was thinking.

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And in Europe they are saying, ”Sure, you can have a short extension, IF parliament approves the deal first”.

That would be the deal twice rejected by parliament and that the speaker won’t accept again unless changed.

So, no extension then.
Depends. He said there needs to be a difference and that it can't be the exact same language. An analyst on the telly just said that whatever proposal comes up needs to change the date in the language, because the current law says 29 March. Whether that's substantial enough is hard to say.

Surely at this point he's sort of forced to let her have a 3rd vote even with a small change, otherwise he really does take the blame for a crash out as Mikers says above.

The arrogance of this government is astonishing. Does May really think that insulting MPs and backing them into a corner of MY deal or NO deal with one week to go is a winner?
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Old 21.03.2019, 18:54
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If you really believe this then there is no hope for you.
I saw Anna perform on a C4 debate in the last few days of the campaign. I’m certain her stridentpassionate performance, along with a visibly worse for wear Sandie Straw swung key marginal undecided votes to leave.

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Perhaps someone should let Guido know that not all British citizens live in the UK.
True, but how many expats live in “Western Sahara”? It’s the quantity that concern him....
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