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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Old 24.06.2016, 16:05
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

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As I said in post 1665, the vast majority of MPs in the UK were pro-Remain. I don't see the deal as done and dusted.

Here's the Beeb chart you were looking for, which confirms my statement.
No, not that one either. Guess I was mistaken.
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There will be blood on the streets if the Brits on Holiday can't pay for a Friday Booze up.
What is worse: blood or vomit?
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Not sure. I suspect the former but only because it's being reported in multiple places and some have twittered photos of signs in hotels and next to ATMs on holiday saying no withdrawals possible for UK cards.

Sterling, along with the FTSE, seems to have stabilised so I guess any panic blockings will be short-lvied. I suspect the pound and FTSE will now sit at this new level for a while.
I also saw some photos and they mentioned it was because the exchange rate is not currently known.
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Old 24.06.2016, 16:06
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What is worse: blood or vomit?
Both (your poll is poorly designed).
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Old 24.06.2016, 16:10
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There will be blood on the streets if the Brits on Holiday can't pay for a Friday Booze up.
That'll be expensive when they find their EHIC doesn't work 😀
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Old 24.06.2016, 16:12
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Is this systemic or just in random cases?
Probably the same as when the Swiss National Bank killed the Euro minimum exchange rate:
Fluctuations are simply to big, impossible to provide a fair quote.
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Old 24.06.2016, 16:16
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

So what do you think?

Germany will be the next one to leave the EU?

Would that make a good poll?
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Old 24.06.2016, 16:20
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Anyway theres a lot of talk about the 18-24s wanting to remain, but I cant find any stats on how many of them turned up to vote.

Does anyone know of any?

We need to drive home that if young people want something they have to become more politically active and it needs to be taught at an early age, in a very practical way, in schools.

They need to understand political history, economics, not just feelings around social justice.
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The UKIP guy who has no control over any fiscal policy and isn't even an elected MP?
Fair point and to be honest the presenters put him on the spot. Anyway compared to the 250 billion the BoE gov is prepared to use to ameliorate the current situation... it's chump change.
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Old 24.06.2016, 16:28
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Anyway theres a lot of talk about the 18-24s wanting to remain, but I cant find any stats on how many of them turned up to vote.

Does anyone know of any?

We need to drive home that if young people want something they have to become more politically active and it needs to be taught at an early age, in a very practical way, in schools.

They need to understand political history, economics, not just feelings around social justice.
Probably best let them mature a bit before voting. They were all planning to vote the wrong way anyhow
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Old 24.06.2016, 16:31
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No. If you are in Switzerland precisely because of the EU free movement provisions (which also apply here) and have now voted to remove that privilege from everyone else in your position in the future you have yourself lost the moral right to continue to benefit from that arrangement. As was explained in Odile's post I quoted.
The right to remain for anyone who moved due to free movement is secure.
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Old 24.06.2016, 16:33
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Anyway theres a lot of talk about the 18-24s wanting to remain, but I cant find any stats on how many of them turned up to vote.
Now if all them yoofs would relocate to some forrin country, seeing they want to be ruled by one anyway, the rest of us could enjoy our bingo in peace.

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Old 24.06.2016, 16:39
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

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Maybe those who voted OUT from the comfort of their alpine and lakes Swiss view, the job they got thanks to the EU reciprocal agreements and the fat salary that goes with - should have to go back and face the music there. Fair enough, no? No tax without representation, some say- makes more sense to me that no vote without personal consequences.
TBH the 'high powered, high earners', would have been able to come to Switzerland on their own merit. I managed it over 20 years ago, educated to O level standard, however I had a skill not available in CH at the time.

It's amusing that your disliking a democratic decision, 1 man 1 vote which is the Swiss system but not the UK one.
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Now if all them yoofs would relocate to some forrin country, seeing they want to be ruled by one anyway, the rest of us could enjoy our bingo in peace.

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So what do you think?

Germany will be the next one to leave the EU?

Would that make a good poll?
Germany would be about the last to leave the EU. It's the only way they can (legally) exercise their will over their neighbours, after the last effort failed a few years ago.
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...however I had a skill not available in CH at the time.
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Involving coffee and 5-10 minutes?
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Germany would be about the last to leave the EU. It's the only way they can (legally) exercise their will over their neighbours, after the last effort failed a few years ago.
The pen really is mightier than the sword
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TBH the 'high powered, high earners', would have been able to come to Switzerland on their own merit. I managed it over 20 years ago, educated to O level standard, however I had a skill not available in CH at the time.
Yeah, me too. It also helped having the backing of a big corporation who knew how to press all the right buttons.
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Le pen really is mightier than the sword
You had me wondering what Madame Marine has to do with it.
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