The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

	Quote:	curley
	However, didn't someone post the other day, that the EU made memes illegal?

No, the opposite -- memes will be specifically excluded from protection under the new internet copyright laws.

	Quote:	curley
	Yeah, well, I have to double check on google every 6 months too.

It's not that hard. You just need to remember "Spring vorwärts, fall zurück". (Hey, it actually translates quite well... except for the part where "spring" and "fall" are of no relevance in German! )

	Quote:	Chuff
	England still had "bollocks" until the end of the war was my point hence why would you want to turn the clock back to when the war was still ongoing even if it was a defining battle... but no worries I don't expect you to get that kind of subtlety. Ahh, old farts these days...

Subtlety, yes, that was definitely your intention.

[SponPlague]

How does this work?

[SponPlague]

	Quote:
	No, the opposite -- memes will be specifically excluded from protection under the new internet copyright laws. It's not that hard. You just need to remember "Spring vorwärts, fall zurück". (Hey, it actually translates quite well... except for the part where "spring" and "fall" are of no relevance in German! ) Subtlety, yes, that was definitely your intention.

Hey, they specifically exempted the “working time directive” from the Maastricht Treaty for the UK as a fig leaf, then added it a few months later under health and safety...

[curley]

	Quote:
	No, the opposite -- memes will be specifically excluded from protection under the new internet copyright laws.......

Are you sure?

I think while they are at it, they should ban all writing from internet too.
Ads only! Yeah! Oh hang on ....

	Quote:	curley
	Are you sure?

Well, from your own link: "Many critics of the Directive argue that the vague wording could allow for overreaching new rules that could restrict freedom of speech even further. The Parliament’s answer: the memes will live on."

I guess it depends which way the reader of the directive leans. They'll see suppression of freedom if that's what they're looking for, while most people (including EU spokespeople) see the wording as loose enough to allow various exemptions, memes (foremost, perhaps) among them.

[curley]

	Quote:
	Well, from your own link: "Many critics of the Directive argue that the vague wording could allow for overreaching new rules that could restrict freedom of speech even further. The Parliament’s answer: the memes will live on." I guess it depends which way the reader of the directive leans. They'll see suppression of freedom if that's what they're looking for, while most people (including EU spokespeople) see the wording as loose enough to allow various exemptions, memes (foremost, perhaps) among them.

I did not read the page totally - yes, I know, unusual for me but I don't really care what they will decide, I know the memes will live.

What are they gonna do, shoot us? The Swiss in me breaks through here: We do what we want and pay the fines if they catch us.

Lots of new jobs as meme-chaser coming up.

	Quote:	curley
	What are they gonna do, shoot us? The Swiss in me breaks through here: We do what we want and pay the fines if they catch us.

Given that we're allowed to download whichever copyright movies and TV shows we like, and we're not in the EU just yet, I think you'll be OK.

[SponPlague]

What’s also interesting is that they didn’t vote for any ban - MEPs vote with buttons working down a numbered list, and at the last minute, an extra item was inserted, throwing the numbering out.

Individual voting records have since been updated to reflect this, but although the overall result would now be the other way by a margin of 5 votes - i.e. no - the overall result hasn’t been updated.

Hmm...

Interesting. Since last Thursday my English language podcasts have been plagued with UK government ads targeted at UK nationals resident in Switzerland on preparing for Brexit. Not sure why they think 2 days before the original date or 2 weeks before the current schedule is enough time to prepare.

Guess it reflects the overall UK Brexit approach though.

Well after the last few days I think this government has completely wrecked Brexit and there’s no way it’ll work. Time for a people’s vote! Revoke Article 50!

	Quote:	loz1983
	well after the last three years i think this government has completely wrecked brexit and there’s no way it’ll work. Time for a people’s vote! Revoke article 50!

ftfy :d

	Quote:	curley
	I consider that propaganda.

Well, they're all at it then, it seems.. even the bank of England.

That big red bus has a lot to answer for.

[amogles]

	Quote:
	Interesting. Since last Thursday my English language podcasts have been plagued with UK government ads targeted at UK nationals resident in Switzerland on preparing for Brexit. Not sure why they think 2 days before the original date or 2 weeks before the current schedule is enough time to prepare. Guess it reflects the overall UK Brexit approach though.

odd, I used to get stuff from them, but Google's algorithms seem to think I'm more interested in ads for Obi (in Turkish)

[k_and_e]

	Quote:	amogles
	odd, I used to get stuff from them, but Google's algorithms seem to think I'm more interested in ads for Obi (in Turkish)

Looks like your neighbors learned your wifi password

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Well after the last few days I think this government has completely wrecked Brexit and there’s no way it’ll work. Time for a people’s vote! Revoke Article 50!

Get out of that! You're April foolin'. Brexit knicker's in the wash and you're having a day off.

	Quote:	Swisstree
	Get out of that! You're April foolin'. Brexit knicker's in the wash and you're having a day off.

my effort last year was much better I suppose...

[yacek]

If the Brexiters wanted less immigration, they might be not really getting what they wished for.
Is it the institutional incapacity, or is it the industry lobbing the government to be more lenient and let more cheap labour in?



Source:
Migration Statistics Quarterly Report: February 2019

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	yacek
	If the Brexiters wanted less immigration, they might be not really getting what they wished for. Is it the institutional incapacity, or is it the industry lobbing the government to be more lenient and let more cheap labour in? Source: Migration Statistics Quarterly Report: February 2019

I don't think they are particularly bothered by immigration, it's just the retainers clutching at straws.

[Fish Paste]

	Quote:	yacek
	If the Brexiters wanted less immigration, they might be not really getting what they wished for. Is it the institutional incapacity, or is it the industry lobbing the government to be more lenient and let more cheap labour in? Source: Migration Statistics Quarterly Report: February 2019

If you ask me, one of ( if not the) the main triggers for Brexit is the government making sweeping statements ( like "We will reduce immigration to the tens of thousands" ) and then not initiating a massive public explanation of why immigration is needed and remains @250k per year.
They stayed relatively quiet, and let the more vocal hammer the immigration statistics as bad/uncontrollable.


If they need that much immigration, they should say so.
If half of it is family reunification, they should say so.
If it's temporary workers, they should say so.
If it's asylum seekers, they should say so.


The problem of the bad publicity of immigration is no going to go away, Brexshit or no Brexshit.


( Whether that amount of immigration is needed or not, I have no idea, I suspect it's not needed )

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	I don't think they are particularly bothered by immigration, it's just the retainers clutching at straws.

Really? Seems immigration featured in two of the top three reasons for Brexit.

http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/why_vote_leave.html