The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

	Quote:	Loz1983
	So that link is useless. My post was non of: personal attacks, abusive comments, trolling and single agenda posts". It was however a robust response to someone inferring that to post a video of an elected AfD politician giving a speech in the Bundestag is indirectly supporting their entire agenda together with NF, Combat 18 etc. Basically you need to go back to Mod Skool.

Implying, not inferring. The person doing the writing (Ace1) is implying, the reader thereafter is inferring.

What was that about going back to school?

[marton]

Still Friday, just!

[TobiasM]

	Quote:	Phil_MCR
	None of the above require the EU so, there are really no reasons to stay.

But they are, and in particular, how much has been benefited from the existence of the EU. So don't spread your mistruths and fake information about European Military ambitions or Fishing Quotas or Turkish memberships or how much money the EU takes from the UK that is being deprived from the NHS or how much EU migration takes jobs away from UK workers. It's all BS. Don't buy it. Its the rich Etonians and self centric politicians with grand ambitions or socialist ideals. Don't buy it.

How does this work?

[SponPlague]

They don’t require dead fish over quota to be thrown back in the sea? News to me...

[Ace1]

	Quote:	SponPlague
	They don’t require dead fish over quota to be thrown back in the sea?

Of course they don't. Nothing stipulates that fishermen have to catch and kill more than they're allowed to keep.

This attitude towards rulemakers didn't start with, nor is it limited to, the EU. Trying to apply new rules onto old processes is never going to be easy, but that's no reason to not bother with them in the first place. Unless you seriously believe we should allow unlimited fishing for as long as the stocks last?

[TobiasM]

	Quote:	SponPlague
	They don’t require dead fish over quota to be thrown back in the sea? News to me...

You think that the UK fisheries would allow UK fishermen to catch and land undersized fish and bycatch either? It would still be illegal regardless of who makes the rules. Of course its a silly rule as everything caught should be used, but the idea is to prevent fishermen from deliberately targeting undersized fish and other fisheries. Sadly even British fisherfolk don't obey the rules.

[SponPlague]

	Quote:	Ace1
	Of course they don't. Nothing stipulates that fishermen have to catch and kill more than they're allowed to keep. This attitude towards rulemakers didn't start with, nor is it limited to, the EU. Trying to apply new rules onto old processes is never going to be easy, but that's no reason to not bother with them in the first place. Unless you seriously believe we should allow unlimited fishing for as long as the stocks last?

Nothing stipulates how fishermen control which fish go into their nets either! It’s an environmental disaster!

[SponPlague]

Non-quota fish caught by accident should be put to good use like feeding poor and needy and elderly, not be thrown back in the sea to rot.

	Quote:	SponPlague
	They don’t require dead fish over quota to be thrown back in the sea? News to me...

Even more than that, as of Jan 1st they completely banned the practice in EU waters. Good to see common sense finally prevail.

[Ace1]

	Quote:	SponPlague
	Nothing stipulates how fishermen control which fish go into their nets either!

Au Contraire. There are loads of rules about fishing methods, designed to limit environmental impact. You seem to be suggesting that the EU should be even more strict, but at the same time you're happy to criticise what they've already done.

[k_and_e]

	Quote:	Ace1
	Au Contraire. There are loads of rules about fishing methods, designed to limit environmental impact. You seem to be suggesting that the EU should be even more strict, but at the same time you're happy to criticise what they've already done.

There is also lots of politics in there. FOr example, electric pulse fishing is now banned because the French fishermen couldn't keep up.

[3Wishes]

	Quote:	Theresa May
	Because Parliament has made clear it will stop the UK leaving without a deal, we now have a stark choice: leave the European Union with a deal or do not leave at all

https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2019/...-talks-labour/

She's asked for an extension to June 30 (again), but will she get it? Will the government and parliament accept a 1-year "flextension"?

Nothing has received a majority vote yet. Will parliament vote on anything before the emergency summit on Wednesday? How on earth can anyone break this impasse??

	Quote:	3Wishes
	https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2019/...-talks-labour/ She's asked for an extension to June 30 (again), but will she get it? Will the government and parliament accept a 1-year "flextension"? Nothing has received a majority vote yet. Will parliament vote on anything before the emergency summit on Wednesday? How on earth can anyone break this impasse??

She'll get what she's given, methinks. A delay, but not on her terms.. the danger is, if/when she goes, whoever takes over unpicks her arrangement with the EU.

We're still in dangerous waters and the uncertainty.. argggh, is driving me nuts.

[3Wishes]

	Quote:	Swisstree
	She'll get what she's given, methinks. A delay, but not on her terms.. the danger is, if/when she goes, whoever takes over unpicks her arrangement with the EU. We're still in dangerous waters and the uncertainty.. argggh, is driving me nuts.

The article mentions that any deal needs to be made Boris-proof, so there's that. Also I think May didn't quite say what she meant to.

She said

	Quote:
	Because Parliament has made clear it will stop the UK leaving without a deal, we now have a stark choice: leave the European Union with a deal or do not leave at all

But what she meant is

	Quote:
	Because Parliament has made clear it will stop the UK leaving without a deal, we now have a stark choice: leave the European Union with MY deal or do not leave at all

Would the tory party seriously put Boris forward as leader? Surely not? How depressing.

Exactly! Not to be believed May, and her talks with Labour are just a another stick to beat the Tory party with.

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	Swisstree
	We're still in dangerous waters and the uncertainty.. argggh, is driving me nuts.

If you want to really ruin your weekend, check out the odds being offered on who the next PM will be

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics...prime-minister

Rank outsiders:
Piers Morgan 500/1
Arron Banks 1,000/1

	Quote:	Blueangel
	If you want to really ruin your weekend, check out the odds being offered on who the next PM will be https://www.oddschecker.com/politics...prime-minister Rank outsiders: Piers Morgan 500/1 Arron Banks 1,000/1

there are not not enough of eeks on the planet to do those odds justice.

If Spitting Image was still in production, Raab would be the thick kid wearing knee high socks and a school cap.

And here she is, telling us how it is..

https://twitter.com/theresa_may/stat...91046025084931

The comments are wonderful - comedy gold.

	Quote:	Blueangel
	If you want to really ruin your weekend, check out the odds being offered on who the next PM will be https://www.oddschecker.com/politics...prime-minister Rank outsiders: Piers Morgan 500/1 Arron Banks 1,000/1

Nigel Farage 100/1

[SponPlague]

	Quote:	Ace1
	Au Contraire. There are loads of rules about fishing methods, designed to limit environmental impact. You seem to be suggesting that the EU should be even more strict, but at the same time you're happy to criticise what they've already done.

I’m delighted to hear that throwing back in the sea has been rescinded.

Common sense suggests that if it happens, something useful should be done with the dead fish.