The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[SponPlague]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	However prices are too high in the EU as it's protectionist, they would have to lower prices to compete if the UK became a tariff free zone. Competition is good

Asymetric system shock?

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	SponPlague
	Of course, if Robin Tillbrook of the English Democrats is right...

You really are talking minority fringe now. I've got mates with more followers than him.

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	I doubt we will buy much from the EU in those circumstances, unless of course they reduce the price by 10% & absorb the tariffs themselves.

We? Malta?

[SponPlague]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	You really are talking minority fringe now. I've got mates with more followers than him. We? Malta?

He is indeed minority fringe, but eminent judges have said his case is arguable and should be tested in the courts...

And well done to Yevette Copper - the Cooper-Letwin bill on article 50 passes parliament. Excellent news.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/08/theresa-may-forced-to-delay-brexit-after-historic-win-for-mps

[st2lemans]

	Quote:	Swisstree
	And well done to Yevette Copper - the Cooper-Letwin bill on article 50 passes parliament.

Bummer.

I was hoping that this nonsense would be over in time for the Easter holidays.

Tom

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	SponPlague
	He is indeed minority fringe, but eminent judges have said his case is arguable and should be tested in the courts...

In this case, "eminent judges" = 1 former appeals judge (now retired), Sir Richard Aitkens PC. In the great scheme of things, he's pretty toothless. If the case had a list of QCs backing it, or even interested in it, that would be an entirely different story. As it currently stands, Tilbrook is waiting for the Government's response, and I do believe they're a little busy at the moment.

As a side note, I love how this story is primarily being run by the two norotious tabloids who printed a front page of QCs and called them traitors. Funny how they hold the law of the land up when it suits them. I see this as a case of the tail wagging the dog.

	Quote:	st2lemans
	Bummer. I was hoping that this nonsense would be over in time for the Easter holidays. Tom

This nonsense will never be over. I suspect that is the point though.

[marton]

	Quote:	Swisstree
	And well done to Yevette Copper - the Cooper-Letwin bill on article 50 passes parliament. Excellent news. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/08/theresa-may-forced-to-delay-brexit-after-historic-win-for-mps

As per your link "The Commons passed the final stage of the bill by 392 votes to 85 – a majority of 307."
Good to see the MPs from different parties working together, even though this is not solving the issue; still kicking the can down the road!

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	st2lemans
	I was hoping that this nonsense would be over in time for the Easter holidays.

If a near 93yr old woman can stay up past her bedtime, I'm sure a young whippersnapper like you can last til after Easter.

https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/sta...73847275016192

	Quote:	marton
	As per your link "The Commons passed the final stage of the bill by 392 votes to 85 – a majority of 307." Good to see the MPs from different parties working together, even though this is not solving the issue; still kicking the can down the road!

As long as the can kicking allows time for a 2nd Ref. to be put forward and supported, I am all for it.

Of course, a less painful option, and a great time saver, would be to simply revoke Art.50.

[Jim2007]

	Quote:	SponPlague
	He is indeed minority fringe, but eminent judges have said his case is arguable and should be tested in the courts...

No sitting judge has commented on it nor will they. On the other hand many retired judges and law lords, usually a bit senile, have spouted a lot nonsense over the years and a few have even proved to be incredibly biased as in the case of Lord Denning for example.

Andrew Lilico blames the Monarchy for allowing the Cooper-Letwin Bill.

The comments are class.

When Brexit is over, I am going to miss the belly laughs.

[amogles]

	Quote:	marton
	Turning our back on the largest trading block in the world, great idea

I can see there is a certain logic to playing for time until after the Euro elections to see if there will be any changes on the other side of the negotiating table.

Maybe even obviating the need for a Brexit in the first place?

But then it's a very long shot that could just as well backfire.

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	Swisstree
	Andrew Lilico blames the Monarchy for allowing the Cooper-Letwin Bill.

I've been reading the same. It appears that hardline Brexiteers will blame absolutely anyone for their own ineptitude.

However, on the Cooper-Letwin side of things, everything is not as it would seem...

https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/st...59760793886720

...but all of that is legal game playing which can be resolved with a swift and water tight amendment.

On a far more serious note, I spent too long over the weekend reading posts written by doctors and pharmacists who had spent the last few days amending patient prescriptions to drugs which are 'currently available'. And as for isotopes...


https://twitter.com/cpeedell/status/1114987917695434752

	Quote:	Blueangel
	I've been reading the same. It appears that hardline Brexiteers will blame absolutely anyone for their own ineptitude. However, on the Cooper-Letwin side of things, everything is not as it would seem... ...but all of that is legal game playing which can be resolved with a swift and water tight amendment.

Definitely, but the proof of concept is positive in that it bypasses T. May in an attempt to talk directly with the EU.

It certainly inches us forward and I think Starmer is taking-up the intent.. but yes, the reason why May did not pay it much heed and we could still crash out, sigh.

So, Brexit extended until 31st Dec. Plenty of time for us to take part in EU elections and have another referendum (and a GE for good measure).

Brexit really is the gift that keeps giving.

[Mikers]

	Quote:	Swisstree
	Definitely, but the proof of concept is positive in that it bypasses T. May in an attempt to talk directly with the EU. It certainly inches us forward and I think Starmer is taking-up the intent.. but yes, the reason why May did not pay it much heed and we could still crash out, sigh.

I think crash out is very very unlikely to the point of being almost not there.

Extension with strings so that farage and co cant wreck the european budget etc then second referendum then cancel brexit still most likely.

[greenmount]

	Quote:
	So, Brexit extended until 31st Dec. Plenty of time for us to take part in EU elections

Which is the most absurd and irritating thing in this whole story. The little, despicable fascist Farage and like-minded fellows had their way after all....shame on you, EU! Not many things about EU succeeded to make me that angry.

[Mikers]

	Quote:	greenmount
	The little, despicable fascist Farage .

Now come on, get off that fence and tell us what you mean. Stop being so cryptic.

[curley]

	Quote:
	So, Brexit extended until 31st Dec. Plenty of time for us to take part in EU elections and have another referendum (and a GE for good measure). Brexit really is the gift that keeps giving.

Where did you get that information?

Mine says, Mrs. May demands prolonging until June 30th and EU will decide about that tomorrow.