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Old 10.04.2018, 18:02
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

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The article is a complete BS, it is just enough to check the video how the accusations have been created out of thin air in this exact case..
The article is not BS - Ms. Walker has documented history of Anti-semitic slurs (for example that the Jews were a major power behind Slavery). She was even too anti semitic Momentum.
Taking her at her word shows the quality of the Al Jazeera "expose".
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Old 10.04.2018, 18:27
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Too much time on your hands...!

I googled the character and then National Front and came across with scary stuff....tbh now I think UK has more serious problems than Brexit.
You wasted your time. He is totally irrelevent today, and even back in the day when he was slightly more relevant he was always a fringe character. Studying him teaches nothing about UK politics.

There are other characters in British politics past and present whose ideas are less extreme but who are or were more dangerous because they managed to get closer to real power.
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Old 10.04.2018, 18:29
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You smell an honest question,. Nothing more. Nothing less. Now I know that may be an alien aroma to you, but it in no way gives you the right to misrepresent my post with your own warped agenda.
Then you tell us why it matters.
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Too much time on your hands...!

I googled the character and then National Front and came across with scary stuff....tbh now I think UK has more serious problems than Brexit.
Don't worry. Griffin's day has passed. He belonged more to my generation than Loz's.

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Then you tell us why it matters.
I was addressing Loz, not you.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

I am sick and tired of anyone who opposes the violent illegal occupation of current Palestine- being accused ot being anti-semitic.

I am 100% non anti-semitic, and 100% opposed to the latter. End of.
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Old 10.04.2018, 20:14
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I am sick and tired of anyone who opposes the violent illegal occupation of current Palestine- being accused ot being anti-semitic.

I am 100% non anti-semitic, and 100% opposed to the latter. End of.
Oldie opposes the violent occupation of Palestine.Odile isn't antisemitic.

Corbyn opposes the violent occupation of Palestine. Therefore Corbyn cannot be antisemitic either.

End of.

But the same Odile accuses all UKIP supporters of racism etc. Goose gander good for etc.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Oh dear
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I'm curious to know the answer. Is it curiosity? Admiration? Knowing your enemy?
The same reason I follow(ed) Anjem Choudary, Owen Jones and Lee Jasper - for the Lolz.

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I don't use twitter. I can only think of a handful of people I would want to 'follow', and they tend to be people who don't use twitter, so I have no impetus to join. Also don't get the thing about 'free speech' being limited to a set number of characters. I thought we'd evolved beyond Nokia text slang.
First thing you find about Twitter is that all the people who you think are worth following are in fact not.
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Old 10.04.2018, 23:23
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Owen Jones?!!!! Are you a total sadist? He'll soon have a full head of grey hair and still look like his mum's dressed him for the school disco. You're Cambridge Analytica's nightmare...
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First thing you find about Twitter is that all the people who you think are worth following are in fact not.
I've kind of gathered that. I've always decided against it because you don't need to join to read them. Reckon I'd only follow Simon Reeve and Lupine Travel anyway.
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The same reason I follow(ed) Anjem Choudary, Owen Jones and Lee Jasper - for the Lolz.



First thing you find about Twitter is that all the people who you think are worth following are in fact not.
Man, you really are a "sadist" (masochist)...I can't understand for the life of me how can you extract so many lolz from following them. But you have a large array, I give you that - the religious nutter, the anti-racism, social justice warrior and the far-left imbecile - he's sweet, in his own way... All....simultaneously! Hmm, therein lies the secret, probably...

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Don't worry. Griffin's day has passed. He belonged more to my generation than Loz's.
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No, no worries at all, just the odd fact here and there. I gathered it's old stuff (although I think there's still BNP and BDP - British Democratic Party, right?) It just made me understand some reactions and opinions that confused me a while back.



Anyway, I think Loz enjoys most watching these guys argue, I know I would (sort of..)

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He accused Mr Chowdhury of being “an apologist for the racism of the Tory party”.
He said: “It’s you and the Tory party whose policies have seen levels of resurgent racism not seen since the war. Black people can’t be racist”.
Mr Chowdhury asked: “So you yourself could never be a racist?”
Mr Jasper answered: “Why is it African activists like me seem to attract public political criticism from Asian men? Don’t see Africans attacking Asian activists? You’re confused about the political reality and power dynamics of racism.
“No black person in the UK can be racist. Racism is prejudice plus power. Black people can be prejudiced but not racist.”
Mr Chowdhury later branded Mr Jasper’s views “vile”.
Mr Jasper has been outspoken in blaming the Government’s “economic violence” and failure to help underprivileged youths for last summer’s London riots.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...tone-aide.html

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Old 11.04.2018, 12:12
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I gathered it's old stuff (although I think there's still BNP and BDP - British Democratic Party, right?) It just made me understand some reactions and opinions that confused me a while back.
BDP have always been a non entity, and my local branch on the BNP were such a bunch violent, nasty little losers that they were excluded from the national party. They didn't even have a candidate in the last two General Elections in my home town.
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Old 25.04.2018, 12:39
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Corbyn failed to implement a few simple measures against Antisemitism - blaming bureaucracy and "expressing concern". To have such a person leading UK opposition is very worrying.
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Old 25.04.2018, 13:19
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To have such a person leading UK opposition is very worrying.
To have such a person leading any British political party is very worrying.

My stock response to close friends who support Corbyn is...As long at the British tax payer is footing the bill for police protection for Luciana Berger MP, to protect her from members of her own party, then you don't get to lecture me on sweet f.a.

The situation is abminable and it's been that way for too many years now, but to get a full 'flavour' of how bad it is, there was a Commons debate last week about anti-semitism in the Labour Party. The testimony given by Luciana Berger contained details of abuse she has received which was so offensive, that it couldn't be broadcast on daytime tv.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live
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Old 25.04.2018, 14:27
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Oldie opposes the violent occupation of Palestine.Odile isn't antisemitic.

Corbyn opposes the violent occupation of Palestine. Therefore Corbyn cannot be antisemitic either.

End of.

But the same Odile accuses all UKIP supporters of racism etc. Goose gander good for etc.
Its not because Corbyn is opposed to Israel and its treatment of Palistinians in the West Bank, Gaza and in the "occupied territories". Its that Corbyn openly supported Hammas and other groups that are anti-semitic and are considered for all intents and purposes to be terrorist organizations. Its also because he has failed to crack down on members of the Labour party that have been openly anti-semitic in the past and that he continues to fail to address the problem. Odile may be wrong that all UKIP supporters are racist, however ignorance [of UKIP supporters] is not an excuse either.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

This is illuminating:

Labour vows to settle anti-Semitism complaints by July

"Jonathan Goldstein, of the Jewish Leadership Council, said Mr Corbyn "engages in conversation until you ask him to do something".

Mr Goldstein told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "When you ask him to do something he has this habit of staring and just shrugging."
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

That habit is exactly what his own MPs accused him of back in 2016. It's the same attitude to a call for action that led to the leadership contest.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Just seen the scenes around Ruth Smeeth this morning and it's utterly disgustingly that this is going on in 2018.
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I like the way how he wanted to smooth things out by sitting together with various Jewish leaders such as the Jewish Leadership Council and then decided to also invite along this well rounded group to the same meeting
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Well against all expectation (mine included) Labour have done pretty poorly in the local elections. I guess the anti-semitism scandal is coming back to bite them. Either that or your average voter hasn't bought into their bullying, militant, cultist brand of left wing politics. This time around, massaging each others egos on social media hasn't translated into votes. I'm sure even Miliband could have punished this shower of shite government at the ballot box.
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Well against all expectation (mine included) Labour have done pretty poorly in the local elections. I guess the anti-semitism scandal is coming back to bite them. Either that or your average voter hasn't bought into their bullying, militant, cultist brand of left wing politics. This time around, massaging each others egos on social media hasn't translated into votes. I'm sure even Miliband could have punished this shower of shite government at the ballot box.
Lib Dems have had the best result so far; almost 15% up.

UKIP vote has collapsed; -95%, no doubt their reward for Brexit
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