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Old 04.05.2018, 16:44
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

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There will always be fringe elements at any public march because nobody can police them for content. I marched against the Iraq war in 2003 along with army veterans in wheelchairs, school children, nurses, priests, rabbis, imams etc.. and there were hammer and sickle flags and placards for nuclear disarmament, Greenpeace and graphic images of dead babies.
I understand what you're saying.

But then why not say fair is fair and give the right wing some slack if some similarly unpleasant types make unsanctioned fringe appearances at events? But no, the press has a field day with pictures like that.
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Old 04.05.2018, 19:55
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I think it's just that Facebook the Kremlin hasn't told the average voter how to vote this time. It's not like they'd muster up their own political opinions or have the capacity to remember what they were sold last time.
Fixed that for you.
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Feeling awful all day. I have election fatigue, but cheered up considerably when I saw this.

All I want now is to get a seat on a flight to Jakku

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Old 04.05.2018, 23:02
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Out of interest, who would be your ideal leader of the opposition?
After today's events, I'm going to change my answer to Anita from the trade desk of my local stone merchants. She could run a country with one hand behind her back.
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Old 04.05.2018, 23:27
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I think it's just that Facebook hasn't told the average voter how to vote this time. It's not like they'd muster up their own political opinions or have the capacity to remember what they were sold last time.
beg to differ. I've seen some extraordinarily bad posts on fb from the likes of Momentum and 'The Deep Left'. One post from the later was a flow chart with only two questions...

Are you rich?
Do you care about other people?

That's the kind of purile crap floating about on fb last week, along with the usual random bot popping into debates between my mates, and accusing us of being elitist for questioning Corbyn's leadership. Stock answer is..."We're from Wigan you total knobsack! Elite and Wigan are a contradiction in terms".
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He's not stupid, he knows the British would NEVER vote in a Marxist leader.
I believe Corbyn to be quite stupid. He's stupid enough to believe the hype around him, stupid enough to wallow in it, stupid enough to never counter it, stupid enough to secure the Tories power, and stupid enough to not see this as a repeat of when his actions secured that the Tories stayed in office for a further 9 years after the 1988 coup attempt because nobody would vote for a fractured Labour Party. This is the same shite inflicted upon a different generation with the same man complicit in engineering it.
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Old 04.05.2018, 23:56
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What's 15% of three geography teachers, one hedgehog sanctuary fundraiser and a dog?
Somehow a much warmer and comforting scenario than the two main parties
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The article is not BS - Ms. Walker has documented history of Anti-semitic slurs (for example that the Jews were a major power behind Slavery). She was even too anti semitic Momentum.
Taking her at her word shows the quality of the Al Jazeera "expose".
The facts shown are that Israel embassy using its own money and funneling money from US is organising and funding pro-Israel organizations in UK, and these activists are only waiting to tarnish their opponents with antisemitism.
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Old 05.05.2018, 16:25
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The facts shown are that Israel embassy using its own money and funneling money from US is organising and funding pro-Israel organizations in UK, and these activists are only waiting to tarnish their opponents with antisemitism.
That's as maybe, but when the evidence that we judge someone is the words that we've seen and heard coming out of their own mouths, and their heavily reported and witnessed actions, all the propoganda in the world is surplus to requirements.
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I'm so weary of this crap. He is not a Marxist.... Trotskyist, Leninist, Maoist or any other sort of communist nutter. He's an old skool, old Labour, left-leaning social democrat who sticks to his guns and can't say no to a good rally.

He obviously does consider communists et al to be fellow travellers on certain causes, but unless I misread Labour's manifesto there was nothing about overthrowing the capitalist system and replacing it with a socialist utopia.

He's not stupid, he knows the British would NEVER vote in a Marxist leader.
"Not a Marxist".

Here's John McDonnell, Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer, explaining the virtues of Marxism and its influence on Corbyn's Labour Party.



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Old 07.05.2018, 14:14
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There will always be fringe elements at any public march because nobody can police them for content. I marched against the Iraq war in 2003 along with army veterans in wheelchairs, school children, nurses, priests, rabbis, imams etc.. and there were hammer and sickle flags and placards for nuclear disarmament, Greenpeace and graphic images of dead babies.
Corbyn participated is marches & rallies orgnized by communists, racists & antisemites, he spoke from thr podium and commended the organizers.

When asked to do something about antisemitism he did nothing.
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Old 07.05.2018, 14:32
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"Not a Marxist".

Here's John McDonnell, Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer, explaining the virtues of Marxism and its influence on Corbyn's Labour Party.



Ignoring calls from Eastern European countries, the EU's very own JC Juncker held a keynote speech in Trier commemorating Marx. A statue donated by China was unveiled at the event.


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Old 07.05.2018, 15:39
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Anybody have a suggestion why posts in this thread are showing up double width so I have to scroll across to read the whole post?

Other threads in the same forum are normal width.
Problem shows up in Chrome browser not MS Edge.

So far as I can see with "inspect" the width is set OK =100%!

Edit: seems to be caused by the last image posted by Amogles?
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Old 17.05.2018, 15:55
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

He STILL hasn’t condemned Hamas for organising all those people to jump in the way of those poor innocent Israeli bullets.
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He STILL hasn’t condemned Hamas for organising all those people to jump in the way of those poor innocent Israeli bullets.
Corbyn supports the Hamas riots, he even asked for his message to be read there. probably in mourning now for the dead Hamas & Islaimc jihad who tried to storm Israel.

Corbyn is at least constant - he has been supporting Terror for decades. old habits and all that.
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Old 18.05.2018, 14:30
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

Hamas protests against the 70th anniversary of the independce of Israel.

So basicvally they are protesting against it being a certain date in the calendar.

They do that by attacking the border.

Some of them get shot.

It's Trump's fault.

It's not the big Hamas guys who get shot of course, but the little guys they can stir up to get angry about stuff like that. The cynical big guys know full well the little guys may die as a result. For them, it's part of the game.

Corbyn defends them.
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Old 18.05.2018, 15:34
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Corbyn supports the Hamas riots, he even asked for his message to be read there. probably in mourning now for the dead Hamas & Islaimc jihad who tried to storm Israel.
To describe 10 children, an 8 month old baby and a double amputee in a wheelchair as terrorists is a disgusting slander even by your very low standards. This was murder by an indifferent army and if there were any justice in the world they would be on trial.



Even the Egyptian army and police managed to quell riots in Tahrir with rubber bullets, riot shields and water cannon. I guess the difference is they don't regard their own people as subhuman.
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Old 18.05.2018, 16:18
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To describe 10 children, an 8 month old baby and a double amputee in a wheelchair as terrorists is a disgusting slander even by your very low standards. This was murder by an indifferent army and if there were any justice in the world they would be on trial.

Even the Egyptian army and police managed to quell riots in Tahrir with rubber bullets, riot shields and water cannon. I guess the difference is they don't regard their own people as subhuman.
You keep using words like "slander" and "smear" - but the facts are that ten of thousands stormed the fences with clear & documented intention to kill israeli civilians if they get across. Hamas used civilians as human shields to hide their terrorists. out of 60 dead more than 50 are hamas & Islamic Jihad members - in such circumstances this is amazing accuracy.


The baby wasn't killed by the Israeli army. even Palestinians in Gaza admit that.

the comparision to Tahrir is not valid. the people in Tahrir didn't want to murder civilians as Hamas does. Compare that to a real massacre by Egyptian police

Hamas brought nothing but death, misery and poverty - yet Corbyn still supports it. This fact alone should have made him a fringe figure, yet he is the leader of UK opposition who makes Trump seem like a statesman.
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out of 60 dead more than 50 are hamas & Islamic Jihad members - in such circumstances this is amazing accuracy.
Says who? Basically what you are saying is that all the able bodied adult they killed was a terrorist and the children and limbless were just accidents? Does that mean they can’t tell the difference between a terrorist and a child but they can between a terrorist and a demonstrator, or that anyone that was killed who wasn’t blatently impossible to be a terrorist was labeled as such buy those who killed them?
Which seems more likely?
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn refuses to denounce terrorist 'friends' Hamas and Hezbollah

U.S. Media Whitewashes Gaza Massacre



Even the Israeli press will admit that "It's A Massacre.."

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...ests-1.6091448
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Says who? Basically what you are saying is that all the able bodied adult they killed was a terrorist and the children and limbless were just accidents? Does that mean they can’t tell the difference between a terrorist and a child but they can between a terrorist and a demonstrator, or that anyone that was killed who wasn’t blatently impossible to be a terrorist was labeled as such buy those who killed them?
Which seems more likely?
Says who?

"Most of the protesters killed this week by Israeli fire along the border with the Gaza Strip were members of Hamas, the militant group said Wednesday, an admission that deepens the starkly different narratives on both sides over the deaths."
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Salah al-Bardawil, one of the Islamist group’s leaders, told Palestinian Radio on Wednesday: “In the last round of confrontations 62 people were martyred, 50 of them were Hamas.”
https://www.thejc.com/news/world/sen...mbers-1.464210

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